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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Says the man who hasn't provided any actual evidence that the men in question really served in Bergdahl's platoon at the time he went missing.
    You feel that these men are all lying, that they are actors hired by Fox News to get back at Barrack Obama for some reason?See What Happens When Megyn Kelly Asks Bergdahl
    Do you have documents that these men were in Bergdahl's platoon at the time he went missing?
    Documents can also be forged

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In all honesty I do not know who to believe.Those 6 young men may not be soldiers.Even if they are or were soldiers doesn't mean they were actually in Bergdahl's squad or team.Even if they were in his squad or team doesn't mean they were there or even telling the truth.Heck they themselves could be spreading hearsay. These six men could be right wing versions of Jesse MacBeth trying to get their 5 minutes of fame or just like many people pissed off that the Obama encouraged more troops and other Americans to be kidnapped by trading five terrorists for one soldier so they could be just trying to demonize a soldier in order make the president's attempt to score cool points blow up in his face.
    You want to know the details of those 6 sodiers... Here you go:

    Megyn Kelly Panel, Part 2: Bergdahl Platoon Against Trade | Video | RealClearPolitics

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    [QUOTE=Bob N;1063377692] Are you aware that GWB released 500 prisoners? What's your impressions on that?[/QUOTE

    Yes......and I was against it...however I don't know what evidence they had on which detainees. I suspect that many were released that should not have been released. However the 500 did not include the top tier terrorists in the Taliban. The five that Obama released are pretty nasty characters and I am sure we will come to regret their release.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The majority does not rule for hearsay.
    They do if they're witnesses to a crime.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    Is it really just that simple? A numbers game?

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    I choose to believe the military tribunal system, AFTER they announce their verdict at the court martial. Bergdahl is an American soldier, who has the right to due process, just like any other American. If you can't handle that, then maybe you belong in Iran, where people can be deemed guilty, and executed without a trial.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    It don't matter, its a done deal. Suck it up and deal with it.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They do if they're witnesses to a crime.
    And that is for an investigation and/or trial to decide. We do still have guilty until proven innocent in this country despite the lynch mob you prefer.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They do if they're witnesses to a crime.
    The presumption of innocence until proven guilty either in a civilian court or a military court should prevail, but, since this is a open forum, many opinions are offered, some are ready to convict based on hearsay.

    If this ever makes it to a court martial, I do hope those "witnesses" are called to give their side, of course, a defense attorney will shoot holes in their testimony and try to discredit them too.

    I'll wait before rendering my opinion.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And that is for an investigation and/or trial to decide. We do still have guilty until proven innocent in this country despite the lynch mob you prefer.
    What?

    The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on he who declares, not on he who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent until proven guilty. In many nations, presumption of innocence is a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial. The burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which has to collect and present enough compelling evidence to convince the trier of fact, who is restrained and ordered by law to consider only actual evidence and testimony that is legally admissible, and in most cases lawfully obtained, that the accused is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. If reasonable doubt remains, the accused is to be acquitted.

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