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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Not to be too partisan one way or another but did you realize that GWB released 500 prisoners?
    Yep, and at least 1/3 of them returned to fight the great Jihad.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, and at least 1/3 of them returned to fight the great Jihad.
    Just one more reason we should get involved more with the ME militarily, huh.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Not to be too partisan one way or another but did you realize that GWB released 500 prisoners?
    Good post Bob, the article in this link states it is suspected that one might have been in on the Benghazi attack;
    More Than 500 Gitmo Detainees Released Under Bush, One Suspected In Benghazi Attack | FreakOutNation

    One of the detainees is suspected in the Benghazi attack.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    You don't think the Taliban tortures deserters to make sure they're committed to Jihad?

    I'm not saying the guy definitely is a deserter and traitor, but being tortured in no way detracts from that possibility.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    From my understanding there was no exchange.
    So there is no comparison.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    It's been realistically suggested they are paid activist, actors and shills? It amazes me you could suggest it without a hint of evidence?

    How much does the regime pay you to make this stuff up?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its been verified that these men are telling the truth? Links?

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Veterans Criticize “Deserter” Bowe Bergdahl - TIME your main stream media believes they are soldiers.

    Criticism of Bergdahl deal mounts - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com your beloved leftist news network believes they are soldiers

    Politico's Simon Disses Bergdahl Detractors as Stressed-Out Soldiers | NewsBusters - your extremist love fest of MSNBC called them soldiers just thinks they are "confused."

    So why did you float a conspiracy theory? Where is your reasoning? Or you just pulling it out of LEFT field for the cause?


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In all honesty I do not know who to believe.Those 6 young men may not be soldiers.Even if they are or were soldiers doesn't mean they were actually in Bergdahl's squad or team.Even if they were in his squad or team doesn't mean they were there or even telling the truth.Heck they themselves could be spreading hearsay. These six men could be right wing versions of Jesse MacBeth trying to get their 5 minutes of fame or just like many people pissed off that the Obama encouraged more troops and other Americans to be kidnapped by trading five terrorists for one soldier so they could be just trying to demonize a soldier in order make the president's attempt to score cool points blow up in his face.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    Personally, I think the decision made by the Obama administration was wrong and will likely come back to bite the US in some fashion in months or years to come.

    That said, it is also wrong in my view to persecute this man in a public way for the sins of the country's leadership. Bergdahl didn't broker this deal - he had no say in the terms and conditions, no sign off authority on making it happen, etc. That's all on Obama and his administration and it's perfectly reasonable to have Congress, the media and the public take them to task for the decision - but not Bergdahl.

    Unfortunately, we in the west are at a disadvantage because we generally value life - all life - and we try to save it wherever we can. The Taliban, and others like them, have no respect or love of life and so they can freely and willingly dispense with it - killing Bergdahl would mean nothing to them if he retained no value as a bargaining chip. The error of the administration's decision is that they now have given the Taliban and others the method by which to manipulate America in the ongoing struggles. But Bergdahl himself should be left alone in this public fight and he should be left to the military to investigate and charge, as necessary, or exonerate, if that's what the facts provide.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It's been realistically suggested they are paid activist, actors and shills?
    Do you got evidence they are not?

    It amazes me you could suggest it without a hint of evidence?
    The media has been dishonest many times.They doctored 911 tapes and deliberately showed blurry to make a man who defended himself appear as a racist. They made fraudulent claims that a former president went awol. The media exploited mass shootings to make it seem as though these things happen everywhere in order to push for gun control, they ignore scandals of politicians they love and blow **** out of proportion for politicians they hate. They prop up candidates.

    How much does the regime pay you to make this stuff up?
    Two can play this game.
    How much does FOX news or Rush Limbaugh pay you to push for anti-Berdahl propaganda?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Veterans Criticize “Deserter” Bowe Bergdahl - TIME your main stream media believes they are soldiers.

    Criticism of Bergdahl deal mounts - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com your beloved leftist news network believes they are soldiers

    Politico's Simon Disses Bergdahl Detractors as Stressed-Out Soldiers | NewsBusters - your extremist love fest of MSNBC called them soldiers just thinks they are "confused."

    So why did you float a conspiracy theory? Where is your reasoning? Or you just pulling it out of LEFT field for the cause?
    Belief is not evidence.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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