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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Quite. I certainly wouldn't believe a word those bastards say, so why create a thread that throws doubt on Bergdahl's reported claims that he was tortured?
    In an overall sense, I am skeptical of Bergdahl and reserving judgment, but on this particular point he may indeed be telling the truth. It is quite likely.
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    It is always suspect when statements like these come out only after the accused has had time to prepare the statements.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The difference here - When one of our POWs is tortured in captivity we are outraged. When a deserter is captured by the enemy and tortured, that contains an element of delicious irony and it's a bit harder to be outraged.
    If Bergdahl is a deserter, there is surely less outrage.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No doctor has declared him "healthy" being with the Taliban. NONE.

    Your Un-American attitude shows greatly that you would leave a soldier to trial by media instead of at least giving him the opportunity to speak in his own defense. Pathetic. Go to Iran.
    "healthy" is a vague term which can have many definitions. He was no more unhealthy then his captors. Look at the average Taliban fighter and you will see they are also very "unhealthy" just do to the nature of their profession. You can't live in a cave and run from place to place living off the meager wildlife in desolate area's and live a "healthy" life. The average age someone dies in Afghanistan is 58 years old. It only makes sense that he would suffer a bit health wise living like the average afghan for 5 years. So the term is relative. And any health issues he has are a result of living like an afghan Taliban fighter for 5 years, not from torture. Ask some WW2 POW's what they went thru and you will see what real torture is. What Bergdahl went thru was heaven in comparison.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You expect there to be links that show evidence what occurred on a remote battlefield in Afghanistan is true or not?
    There should be some sort of documentation that states where they were stationed.

    Who has more reason to make up a story here?
    1.The people who do not like Obama encouraged terrorists to kidnap Americans.
    2.People who want the 15 minutes of fame.Remember Jessie MacBeth?

    The soldiers don't get anything out of making up a story.
    We know this how?

    And don't you think it is a bit odd that all their stories seem to coincide with each other.
    You do not think they talked to each other before being on TV?

    I have not heard stories from anyone in his unit that contradict what has been said.
    How many people from his alleged unit have you heard?

    The administration has quite a few reasons to try and brush this under the rug by marring it in misinformation.
    THe people against Obama also have quite a few reasons to try to make this story something it isn't.
    They have an election to win this next year.
    Obama does not have an election to win.

    The soldiers that spoke out are lucky to even get proper medical care after their stint in a battle zone in Afghanistan. They have no aspirations that could be potentially damaged by this.
    You do not know that.
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    He probably was at the least beaten.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N
    Not to be too partisan one way or another but did you realize that GWB released 500 prisoners?
    Consider the difference between these headlines:

    "Man who had .01 oz of marijuana still accidentally in his bag when he got off the plane from Colorado in New York released on bail."

    or:

    "Sadistic sociopath with a history of successfully evading the police, who violently murdered and raped three teenage girls and has promised to do the same if he ever gets the chance, released on bail."


    All prisoners are not exactly created equal.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post




    Consider the difference between these headlines:

    "Man who had .01 oz of marijuana still accidentally in his bag when he got off the plane from Colorado in New York released on bail."

    or:

    "Sadistic sociopath with a history of successfully evading the police, who violently murdered and raped three teenage girls and has promised to do the same if he ever gets the chance, released on bail."


    All prisoners are not exactly created equal.
    Nonetheless, it's like I said earlier, GWB did release 500 terrorists.

    Look at it this way: Society decides to release 500 people from prison at random. How many of them were hot wiring cars and how many of them were serial killers; it's something to ponder.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Nonetheless, it's like I said earlier, GWB did release 500 terrorists.
    500 prisoners. Some of whom have since either become terrorists or returned to terrorism, a fact which should give us pause before we release more, and none of whom were the quality of bad guy that these guys were.

    Look at it this way: Society decides to release 500 people from prison at random. How many of them were hot wiring cars and how many of them were serial killers; it's something to ponder.
    No it's not. That is an amazingly unattached defense of the President releasing the Taliban's Starting Lineup just in time for them to get plugged in for the offensive following our withdrawal. It has literally no bearing on whether or not that was a wise decision whatsoever.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and none of whom were the quality of bad guy that these guys were.
    One of them is in suspect for the attack on Benghazi.

    More Than 500 Gitmo Detainees Released Under Bush, One Suspected In Benghazi Attack

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Precisely. So what does that tell you about the wisdom of releasing these guys now that we know what they are going to do?

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