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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He was.

    Taliban propaganda believed by the same right wing who didn't believe their nonsense before 2008.
    They didn't have that information before. You must admit that's a serious change of context and, in and of itself, accounts for the change in attitude.

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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They didn't have that information before. You must admit that's a serious change of context and, in and of itself, accounts for the change in attitude.
    The Taliban making outrageous claims for propaganda reasons? Of course not. It's not like claiming they've converted an American soldier and he's now one of them would do any wonders for their image in Islamist circles. The claim has only come from one source that has a lot to gain politically from pushing that nonsense. That Republicans have now become the propaganda wing of the Taliban and continue to utter the report as a fact is better viral marketing than the Taliban could have hoped for.
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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Taliban making outrageous claims for propaganda reasons? Of course not.
    No, the military reports and statements from soldiers in his unit. Those things did not come to light until later, and that obviously changed peoples' opinion - legitimately.

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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, the military reports and statements from soldiers in his unit. Those things did not come to light until later, and that obviously changed peoples' opinion - legitimately.
    you mean the military reports that showed that Bergdahl had wandered off base times in the past?
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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Taliban making outrageous claims for propaganda reasons? Of course not. It's not like claiming they've converted an American soldier and he's now one of them would do any wonders for their image in Islamist circles. The claim has only come from one source that has a lot to gain politically from pushing that nonsense. That Republicans have now become the propaganda wing of the Taliban and continue to utter the report as a fact is better viral marketing than the Taliban could have hoped for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you mean the military reports that showed that Bergdahl had wandered off base times in the past?

    The fact remains, if people believe the new information, it DOES account for the change in opinion.

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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So now conservatives take liberals' speculation as fact. What a world.
    I think all that is being said is that Obama has some real problems here even within his own party.
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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, the military reports and statements from soldiers in his unit. Those things did not come to light until later, and that obviously changed peoples' opinion - legitimately.
    Actually:

    Report made in 2010:

    Bowe Bergdahl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In June 2010, Bergdahl managed to escape his captors but was recaptured after five days.[47] In August 2010, it was reported that a Taliban commander named Haji Nadeem said Bergdahl was helping to train the Taliban in bomb-making and infantry tactics. The Pentagon dismissed the reports as Taliban propaganda.[48][4
    Allen West's statement urging the administration to work on his return: 2013
    John McCain's statements urging the administration to work on his turn: 2014
    Kelly Ayotte's statements urging the administration to work on his return: 2014
    James Inhoffe's statements urging the administration to work on his return: 2014
    Gateway Pundit's statements urging the administration to work on his return: 2013
    Oliver North's statements urging the administration to work on his return: 2011

    Hell, the only two people who I can't find statements on Berghdal AFTER the report came out are from Malkin and Palin. However, my claim about the fact that the claim's original source is one Taliban commander (who has everything to gain from making people believe it) remains:

    NBC: Reports about captured Idaho soldier not true | KTVB.COM Boise

    "They immediately poked holes in it by pointing out that Nadeem said when Bergdahl was captured after walking away from his combat outpost, for whatever reason, that when the Taliban took him into custody they made him take off all his clothes and his body armor for fear that there was a GPS locator implanted in either the armor or his clothing. But the fact of the matter is Bowe left the base with nothing more than a compass and a bottle of water. He left his weapon and his body armor behind, so the story already doesn't hold much water from the get-go. And the fact that the source of the information is actually a Taliban commander of sorts indicates it may be nothing more than pure propaganda."
    Hell, even that article points to the fact that the military was making it public that Berghdal had walked away from him post as far back as 2010. Refuting the claim that this wasn't known and the general public was in the dark about who he was.
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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The fact remains, if people believe the new information, it DOES account for the change in opinion.
    What NEW INFORMATION? This was all pretty public as far back as 2010 and Republicans supported efforts to bring him home regardless!
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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Faux outrage from Republicans. They are Judas', all of them.


    This is like when the Democrats voted for the Iraq war and then decided they were against it. Republicans OF EVERY SINGLE stripe and creed supported this and now they're turned their backs on the very statements they made. Liars and Judas'.
    Bull****. The backlash at Obama is not the fact that Bergdahl has been released. It's is a good thing to have him back on American soil.

    The public outrage is way it was handled and the concessions that were made for that release. Obama tried to manipulate the event into some Rose Garden victory lap. They (Obama/Rice/Hagel) have lied about virtually every element of the prisoner exchange. From their portrayal of Bergdahl as honorable and brave to the lies about the movements/freedoms of the 5 Taliban leaders being monitored/contained. First story was that they posed no threat. Then Obama had to completely walk that back.

    The White House grossly miscalculated their political savvy/magic on this one....

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    Re: No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein

    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Bull****. The backlash at Obama is not the fact that Bergdahl has been released. It's is a good thing to have him back on American soil.

    The public outrage is way it was handled and the concessions that were made for that release. Obama tried to manipulate the event into some Rose Garden victory lap. They (Obama/Rice/Hagel) have lied about virtually every element of the prisoner exchange. From their portrayal of Bergdahl as honorable and brave to the lies about the movements/freedoms of the 5 Taliban leaders being monitored/contained. First story was that they posed no threat. Then Obama had to completely walk that back.

    The White House grossly miscalculated their political savvy/magic on this one....
    maybe they calculated that the backlash would have been worse if he had allowed a american citizen die in captivity.
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