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Billionaire Pleads Guilty to Sexual Assault Charge

AJiveMan said:
The uncooperative victim and mother in this case must have contributed to the misdemeanor charge I'm thinking because I believe sexual assault of a minor is a felony. Like Maggie said, possibly some money was traded to the victim to sort of just forget about it.

I really didn't want to see him tucked away for life, but I think five years would have been fair, or 2 years and electronic monitoring for 3.
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I read about the case this morning in the paper, but I don't believe the victim was a "minor" at the time of the alleged "abuse." Obviously it's a sick crime but if she was older than 17 it's not a crime.

Maybe there was evidence that suggested something happened when she was a minor, however she was uncooperative - and even minors have Fifth Amendment rights.

I'm interested to know what evidence the DA actually had considering the lack of cooperation.

Of course the DA could have just over charged him and the jury could only convict on the evidence alone.

Either way it is a sick alleged crime.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I read about the case this morning in the paper, but I don't believe the victim was a "minor" at the time of the alleged "abuse." Obviously it's a sick crime but if she was older than 17 it's not a crime.

Maybe there was evidence that suggested something happened when she was a minor, however she was uncooperative - and even minors have Fifth Amendment rights.

I'm interested to know what evidence the DA actually had considering the lack of cooperation.

Of course the DA could have just over charged him and the jury could only convict on the evidence alone.

Either way it is a sick alleged crime.
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This article will help you understand the age of the victim and other things about the case.

Billionaire Johnson heir gets brief jail term in sex assault case
 
Hatuey said:
It was Texas, a Liberal bastion known for cuddling the poor and hating the rich.
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I'm not going to blame the state - I'm going to blame the idiot judge that actually accepted such a "plea" and the idiots that bought it.

If anything this is the type of plea a progressive would actually concoct.

Obviously it's a lawyers job to get their client off or at least have their charges reduced but this "affluenza" nonsense is just cocky within itself.

The kid belongs in prison - he doesn't need mental health help.

Hell, a friend of mine was in a car with a few other people and he crashed the car killing my friend and injuring the other passengers and he got 7-years in prison. This kid gets "mental health help" and sympathy..... What a little ****.
 
AJiveMan said:
This article will help you understand the age of the victim and other things about the case.

Billionaire Johnson heir gets brief jail term in sex assault case
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I see now. He "touched" the girls and didn't rape them and the alleged victims have refused to cooperate..

I'm obviously not defending the guy but it seems the evidence just wasn't there, and IMO the court is lucky what they got.

For all we know it was the girls that were the aggressors in this case - which is a suitable reason as to why they refuse to cooperate.

Obviously having none of the evidence I can do nothing more than speculate.
 
HonestJoe said:
Why bother with court cases at all then. Why not just mob rule based on media coverage?

I'm also curious why it being implied that his being a billionaire somehow justifies greater punishment.
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Guy plead guilty to fondling a 6th grader. 4 months strikes me as a rather light sentence for the crime. My issue with this is simple, why are pedophiles given special treatment in prison? Mind you, life is much harder on them but the bottom line is that should go through the mind of any of them prior to committing the crime. Our justice system no longer applies punishment to these F$*^s that fits the crime.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I'm not going to blame the state - I'm going to blame the idiot judge that actually accepted such a "plea" and the idiots that bought it.

If anything this is the type of plea a progressive would actually concoct.x
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Sigh...

Family District Judge, 323rd Judicial District: 4 Year Term Expires 2014
Jean Boyd (Republican)
Scott D. Moore Juvenile Justice Center
2701 Kimbo Road
Fort Worth, Texas 76111
817-838-4600 Fax: 817-759-7899
Email: jboyd@tarrantcounty.com
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Wrong again..
 
Mr.Nick said:
I see now. He "touched" the girls and didn't rape them and the alleged victims have refused to cooperate..

I'm obviously not defending the guy but it seems the evidence just wasn't there, and IMO the court is lucky what they got.

For all we know it was the girls that were the aggressors in this case - which is a suitable reason as to why they refuse to cooperate.

Obviously having none of the evidence I can do nothing more than speculate.
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Yes, it's all too common to blame 12 & 15 year old girls as being aggressively sexual by nature. :roll: We should all blame the victims for wearing tight jeans and tank tops. :twisted:
 
Mr.Nick said:
The fundamental problem with this case is the alleged victim didn't want to cooperate.

Legally you cant do much with limited evidence.

Besides, his sentence isn't that unusual at all given the lack of evidence.

I know every person who hates the rich want's the guy to get life in prison but that is not how the judicial system works.
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Yeah, I'm surprised they got this much honestly. I get the impression that the guy legitimately felt guilty (which doesn't excuse his actions of course) and was cooperative so they gave him a better deal. I think if he fought it he would have gotten away with it completely. The only evidence I'm seeing is the mandatory report from the clinic. Don't think that's enough.
 
Hatuey said:
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Wrong again..
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Since when are all republicans sane? you don't think republicans can be goofy?

You think a progressive judge would have had a difference in opinion? I highly doubt that.

Furthermore this was really not a "plea" in this case they called "experts" to testify - and I can assure you that the idiot who testified that "affulenza" was real was certainly a progressive - as most therapists/psychologists are.

Judges are just there to oversee the trial and usually make sure it's conducted in a legal progress.

I'll say this much - republican judges can be extremely strict and crude.
 
Republic Now! said:
Yeah, I'm surprised they got this much honestly. I get the impression that the guy legitimately felt guilty (which doesn't excuse his actions of course) and was cooperative so they gave him a better deal. I think if he fought it he would have gotten away with it completely. The only evidence I'm seeing is the mandatory report from the clinic. Don't think that's enough.
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I absolutely agree.

I was assuming the guy confessed, and the victims had no intention to testify - so his confession was used against him.

Either way it was a nasty crime.....
 
AJiveMan said:
Yes, it's all too common to blame 12 & 15 year old girls as being aggressively sexual by nature. :roll: We should all blame the victims for wearing tight jeans and tank tops. :twisted:
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Dude, I'm 33 and have been hit on by 16-year-olds.

In this day and age it's not uncommon as you think.

Girls lie about their ages to get with older dudes all the time.

What do you think these girls do? play with dolls?

Obviously not all are promiscuous and seek "companionship" of older guys but there are plenty that do - or at least want to.
 
MaggieD said:
Probably didn't even have to file a lawsuit.

Although it would be risky, the defendant's attorneys may have made the family an offer they couldn't refuse. (I wouldn't blame them, by the way.)
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If I could get a ******** of money for doing absolutely no work I wouldn't mind. Play my cards right it can be one single incident instead of 15 before I squeal and force the person to pay me some huge-ass cash.

Too bad I'm probably too old for any pedophile's tastes at this point.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Dude, I'm 33 and have been hit on by 16-year-olds.

In this day and age it's not uncommon as you think.

Girls lie about their ages to get with older dudes all the time.

What do you think these girls do? play with dolls?

Obviously not all are promiscuous and seek "companionship" of older guys but there are plenty that do - or at least want to.
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Absolutely, look no further than Ancient times, people had young/old relationships left and right.
 
Luftwaffe said:
Absolutely, look no further than Ancient times, people had young/old relationships left and right.
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Well I only date woman between the ages of 24/25-40 so. But that's not to say my little brothers little girlfriends haven't attempted to make a move on me or at least get too inappropriately unfriendly lol. It's flattering but I'm not a sicko.
 
Fishstyx said:
Guy plead guilty to fondling a 6th grader. 4 months strikes me as a rather light sentence for the crime.
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It seems to be fairly standard for the offences he was actually convicted of, which is all he can be sentenced for. The main issue there was the lack of evidence preventing a more serious charge being brought and that seems far too messy a situation to really understand from the outside.

Fishstyx said:
My issue with this is simple, why are pedophiles given special treatment in prison? Mind you, life is much harder on them but the bottom line is that should go through the mind of any of them prior to committing the crime. Our justice system no longer applies punishment to these F$*^s that fits the crime.
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Any prisoners who are perceived to be at greater risk from some of the violent thugs in prisons are given special treatment to reduce that risk. I not convinced that's necessarily beneficial to them though.

Personally I think prison should be about rehabilitation and deterrent but if you want some kind of generic punishment too (or instead!), that should be formally specified and implemented. Frankly, I consider the whole idea of dropping unpopular prisoners in the general population and hoping something nasty happens to them (behind close doors so we don't need to think about it) as cowardly.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Since when are all republicans sane? you don't think republicans can be goofy?
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So how does this work? If the judge doesn't vote your way, he must a Democrat. If he's a Republican, he must be insane or goofy? It couldn't possibly be that some right wingers love to protect the rich?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Dude, I'm 33 and have been hit on by 16-year-olds.
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... What kind of social circles are you hanging around with your 33 years of age when a 16 year old kid can build up the.... let's call it... confidence... to hit on you?
 
Hatuey said:
So how does this work? If the judge doesn't vote your way, he must a Democrat. If he's a Republican, he must be insane or goofy? It couldn't possibly be that some right wingers love to protect the rich?
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What about non-rich rapists that have been given even lesser sentences than this one, in Liberal regions?
 
Hatuey said:
... What kind of social circles are you hanging around with your 33 years of age when a 16 year old kid can build up the.... let's call it... confidence... to hit on you?
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I would call that, "the real world", where ****ed up **** like that is a possibility.
 
Jango said:
Yet another example on a long list of them that shows that there are 2 distinct legal systems: one for the rich & one for everyone else.
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Exactly how is THIS case an example of that, or is this just a situation if you ignoring facts to push an agenda?

By the looks of the facts in this it seems more of an example of the pitfalls of a legal system where the burden is on the prosecution. Without the mother or daughter testifying against him it seemed the legal case wasn't strong enough to justify anything greater than what he got.
 
Hatuey said:
So how does this work? If the judge doesn't vote your way, he must a Democrat. If he's a Republican, he must be insane or goofy? It couldn't possibly be that some right wingers love to protect the rich?
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If you want my opinion I think all judges are nuts - and there is plenty of precedence to prove this.
 
Hatuey said:
... What kind of social circles are you hanging around with your 33 years of age when a 16 year old kid can build up the.... let's call it... confidence... to hit on you?
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Man, I live with 3 brothers, I'm the oldest and the youngest is 21, and we party sometimes, however my 21-year-old brother does have friends that are 18 or so, and they have friends that are 16-17.... Not to mention to make ends meet a few years back I had to manage a "burger joint" that was basically nothing but 16-year-old girls.

It's really not my social circle but I do enjoy partying with my brothers from time to time when I have nothing planned...

It's not exactly like I hang out with 16-year-olds, they just happen to be around from time to time, and usually I'm kicking them out of the house for not being old enough to drink or at least 18 - I don't need any problems with cops or parents.
 
apdst said:
What about non-rich rapists that have been given even lesser sentences than this one, in Liberal regions?
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Many progressive judges would rather throw a child rapist in a mental hospital than prison.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Many progressive judges would rather throw a child rapist in a mental hospital than prison.
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There are many instances where Libbo judges didn't even do that much. But, have the Libbos nutted up about it?

It's quite sickening that the Libbo outrage over this is just because the dude is rich and not because he molested a little girl. Quite the telling commentary of the Libbos.
 
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