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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    A thing's purpose is part of its nature.
    Subjective statement. First of all, we are talking about a human act, which means that the purpose of the act is subjective. Second, what is in a living thing's nature is subjective. We can say that it is in our nature to help others, but this does not make it true. This is a subjective statement.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Do you mean my specific individual purpose, or my purpose as a human being generally speaking? If you mean the former, then I'm not entirely sure, but that's not relevant. If you mean the latter, then I can know that by understanding the realities of human nature.
    Our purposes as human beings are subjective. It is one of the most widely asked philosophical questions on this planets "why are we here?". The answer is subjective. According to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy the answer is "42". It shows that we don't even know what question we are asking. Human nature is just as subjective as ascribing a single or primary purpose to a human act such as sex.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you can't understand your specific purpose, or any person's specific purpose, it's difficult to speak of purpose in general. None of those things are within your realm.
    Why is it beyond my comprehension?

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Why is it beyond my comprehension?
    You'll have to take it up with God. That was his idea, not mine.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You'll have to take it up with God. That was his idea, not mine.
    Where did God say that human nature is beyond human comprehension?

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Where did God say that human nature is beyond human comprehension?
    Where did God say that your belief of what human nature is is correct? Which God is correct about human nature?

    Basing morality on what you believe in God saying or how you believe God "designed" people to be is subjective. It is nothing but your beliefs, your opinions. You can't prove that human nature is a certain way, and especially not that it was meant to be a certain way.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    What element of the telos of a human is contradicted by space travel?
    when did people get a telos?

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    when did people get a telos?
    When they were created.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    When they were created.
    you mean when you weeper born a doctor declared 1 or when your parents banged they said 1 what do you mean?

    not sure your goals are determined by any 1 but yourself

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    Re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    When they were created.
    Created by who? Where is the proof of this? Where are the designs for humans? Where is the copy of this "telos" that tells us exactly the intentions of the creator?
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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