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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you keep repeating this lie but yet have nothing to support it and your posts have been FACTUALLY wrong regarding law.
    2.) I agree good thing this did NOT happen but you are free to fill that it did but that will only be your OPINION backed up by zero facts
    3.) no it doesnt matter and that is meanignless to law, the constitution and rights or individuals
    4.) I agree but again that has no impact on laws, rights and the constitution
    5.) another failed strawman, who called the "rulings" law? nobody please stick to what has actually been said
    6.) this is not needed the constitution already protects equal and civil rights
    7.) the games being played were by the state and the fed is fixing it
    8.) you are free to have this opinion but its meanignless to the topic at hand
    9.) no those are factually nothing alike.
    the 10 is fully intact since the state cant infringe individual rights, hence why the FED is fixing it, so this point fails too.
    10.) no it was awesome because we are not a direct democracy especially when it comes to RIGHTS LMAO
    thank you for further proving to us that you do not know how law and rights work.

    are you telling me a state of white could get together and VOTE using DEMOCRACY that rape is legal, and only the majority religion should be allowed? if not why? anythign you say besides yes would be hypocritical.

    your argument is a complete failure and not based on any intellectual honest, legality or rational.

    11.) wrong again this is how government is supposed to work CHECKS AND BALANCES. the people and state over stepped the fed fixed it. Thats its design.

    12.) you keep repeating this but it has no impact because obviously you do care and your claims cant be supported

    again please let us know when you have more than failed strawmen and any facts to support your claims. Repeating your unsupportable opinions over and over wont change anything.
    Man, I worked as a paralegal and spent days in courtrooms running documents and watching cases so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

    Just because you disagree means nothing... Especially from a "guy" who finds it acceptable to number his points and cant even write a valid argument or even a valid proper argument.

    I'm sure you're a hero to some but an absolute embarrassment to others.

    Out of curiosity to you have a 5-point plan yet?

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Man, I worked as a paralegal and spent days in courtrooms running documents and watching cases so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

    Just because you disagree means nothing... Especially from a "guy" who finds it acceptable to number his points and cant even write a valid argument or even a valid proper argument.

    I'm sure you're a hero to some but an absolute embarrassment to others.

    Out of curiosity to you have a 5-point plan yet?
    translation: your posts still have nothing of intellectual merit, honesty or accurate facts to support your claims/ So instead your posts continue to deflect and try failed insults even though you have been proven factually wrong by multiple posters.

    again nobody honest and educated buys it LOL

    Fatcs win again and your post fails again.

    Let us know when your posts can defend your claims using facts or anythign accurate, not just your meaningless unsupportable opinions. Thanks in advance.
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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Man, I worked as a paralegal and spent days in courtrooms running documents and watching cases so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

    Just because you disagree means nothing... Especially from a "guy" who finds it acceptable to number his points and cant even write a valid argument or even a valid proper argument.

    I'm sure you're a hero to some but an absolute embarrassment to others.

    Out of curiosity to you have a 5-point plan yet?
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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Here's a better question:

    Why the **** do you pretend not to care? If you really don't care, quit posting in threads about same-sex marriage. Some of us do care that people are being denied rights based on nothing but a baseless disapproval of others. This is America, and I find that unacceptable. So I am going to speak out against it. If that bothers you, don't read what I write. Log off this message board. Go outside or something. Quit spending so much time talking about a subject you claim not to care about.
    The better question is why do you care? I find that reason to be social greed.

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The better question is why do you care? I find that reason to be social greed.
    Social greed? Exactly what do I personally stand to gain by someone else getting married?
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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    But the current battle is over STATE-SANCTIONED homosexual unions. Homosexual unions have always existed as some small percentage of unions, illicit or otherwise. But state sanctioned is what we're fighting over.
    As in the past, the battles were over state-sanctioned interracial unions, state sanctioned unions where one is an inmate, or state-sanctioned unions where a person owes child support. Guess what? The Constitution, specifically the Equal Protection Clause, covers all these things including "homosexual unions" or more appropriately, same sex unions (homosexuals can get married, to someone of the opposite sex).
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I believe homosexuals already have equal rights and don't agree that equal rights" applies to anything but people. In the case of homosexual marriage, what advocates are actually arguing is that all relationships are equal and must be treated the same by the state.
    No it isn't. What they are arguing is that the state cannot deny entry into a legal kinship-creating contract on the basis of two people's relative sexes, the same way that it was once argued that the state cannot deny entry into a legal kinship-creating contract on the basis of two people's relative races.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It was Clinton who signed the law, and it was a mistake.
    I think that signing DOMA into law, however horrible that law was, may have really saved us from a Constitutional Amendment banning same sex marriage. I could be wrong, and really we can't know what would have happened, but the support existed for a Constitutional Amendment in Congress at the time, and likely in the states as well. That would have been much harder to get gone than DOMA was. It would have taken more effort on the part of ban supporters, but there were votes for it when Bush was in office in Congress, and during that time was when many states were putting into place their own state bans.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    translation: your posts still have nothing of intellectual merit, honesty or accurate facts to support your claims/ So instead your posts continue to deflect and try failed insults even though you have been proven factually wrong by multiple posters.

    again nobody honest and educated buys it LOL

    Fatcs win again and your post fails again.

    Let us know when your posts can defend your claims using facts or anythign accurate, not just your meaningless unsupportable opinions. Thanks in advance.
    Define "intellectual" - does that mean agree with you or have my own ideals or theories?

    I've made "intellectual" professors go bat**** crazy just saying that.

    When I define intellectual - it seems I'm generally the intellectual and everyone else is the skeptic - because they believe something but are willing to exclude certain aspects of a theory or fact for political reasons.

    Now who is the skeptic? the one who wants to ignore facts for political reasons or those that can accept the facts and deal with them?

    Now who is the real skeptic?

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    re: Judge strikes down Wisconsin gay marriage ban[W:287]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry to explain to you that the tyrannical SCOTUS is the end all of legislation - at least if it violates federal law, however they do occasionally handle state issues that have nothing to do with federal law that cant be resolved within the state legislator or through judicial means.

    And if you really want my opinion on gay marriage - I could care less about the issue - but I do care about democracy, and states who have put gay marriage on their ballots - the pro-gay marriage population lost tremendously.

    Also, why the hell does government need to be involved in marriage in the first place? the only reason I can concoct is taxes and somehow public acceptance.

    Do you really think that if our government endorsed gay marriage that would somehow change peoples position on the issue?
    Wrong. Any ruling by the SCOTUS can be overturned via an Amendment to the US Constitution. If you actually have the support, you can change the Constitution.

    We do not live in a democracy, but a constitutional republic that has a system of checks and balances, which includes the SCOTUS.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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