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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Clearly you didn't understand my point.

    Here is the point.

    We need to make quality jobs, not jobs for the sake of making jobs. Those jobs are Mcjobs. They are not intended to support a family of four. To do that, you need a quality job.
    The only jobs that are created are the ones that are needed, and the ones for which exist ample demand to create. Period.

    Now do you have a suggestion as to how to make "quality jobs"? I would love to hear it.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The only jobs that are created are the ones that are needed, and the ones for which exist ample demand to create. Period.

    Now do you have a suggestion as to how to make "quality jobs"? I would love to hear it.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The only jobs that are created are the ones that are needed, and the ones for which exist ample demand to create. Period.

    Now do you have a suggestion as to how to make "quality jobs"? I would love to hear it.
    Allow for more private sector development. Make it easier for small business start ups. Remove barriers set by the government.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Allow for more private sector development. Make it easier for small business start ups. Remove barriers set by the government.
    Like what type of barriers?

    Can you list any specific barriers to starting a small business?

    The only barriers that I know about are the ones on the part of the individual, like having some skills, and a good business idea, and a little cash to start it with. Other than that, I can't really think of any barriers. Pretty much all you have to do is to find someone who is willing to pay you to do something or to provide them with something.

    What type of business would you like to start, and why don't you start it? Is there some law that prevents you from starting it?
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Allow for more private sector development.
    what is suppressing private sector development?

    Make it easier for small business start ups.
    easier in what way?
    easier to do what, exactly?

    Remove barriers set by the government.
    specifically what barriers are set by government?
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Like what type of barriers?

    Can you list any specific barriers to starting a small business?

    The only barriers that I know about are the ones on the part of the individual, like having some skills, and a good business idea, and a little cash to start it with. Other than that, I can't really think of any barriers. Pretty much all you have to do is to find someone who is willing to pay you to do something or to provide them with something.

    What type of business would you like to start, and why don't you start it? Is there some law that prevents you from starting it?
    I already started my business. And I don't run it anymore. Let me tell you why. I wasn't able to pay myself what I am worth. I was able to find someone else to do that. So I took their job instead of continuing the one I made for myself.

    Which goes back to $15 an hour. Why pay someone $15? Shouldn't you pay them what they are worth? Why should I as employer pay more $15 an hour for a guy to spin a sign in front of my business? Are you being paid what you are worth? Do you pay your employees or the people who work for you what they are worth? If not, then you are the problem.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    The economic results just released today show why we aren't having the employment created necessary to keep up with population growth and why we have so many people discouraged. This is what happens when you elect and re-elect a community organizer who was unqualified for a job in a private sector economy and the direction so many want to take this country. The dependent society is upon us and that is what makes liberals happy.

    U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q
    When are you liberals going to wake up, if ever?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I already started my business. And I don't run it anymore. Let me tell you why. I wasn't able to pay myself what I am worth. I was able to find someone else to do that. So I took their job instead of continuing the one I made for myself.

    Which goes back to $15 an hour. Why pay someone $15? Shouldn't you pay them what they are worth? Why should I as employer pay more $15 an hour for a guy to spin a sign in front of my business? Are you being paid what you are worth? Do you pay your employees or the people who work for you what they are worth? If not, then you are the problem.
    So you failed in business. Hummm.

    Anyhow, you didn't answer the question. What type of governmental barriers did you find to starting that business?

    Apparently none, since you were able to start it.

    However you did apparently find that there wasn't enough demand to support your business. A lack of customers is why most businesses fail. Our economy is demand driven.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 217,000 Jobs in May, Unemployment Rate Stays at 6.3%[W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I already started my business. And I don't run it anymore. Let me tell you why. I wasn't able to pay myself what I am worth.
    actually, you were
    you were able to pay your self what you were economically worth to the company
    now, you may have wanted to receive remuneration greater than your true economic worth but that true worth is driven by the economic environment

    I was able to find someone else to do that. So I took their job instead of continuing the one I made for myself.

    Which goes back to $15 an hour. Why pay someone $15? Shouldn't you pay them what they are worth? Why should I as employer pay more $15 an hour for a guy to spin a sign in front of my business? Are you being paid what you are worth? Do you pay your employees or the people who work for you what they are worth? If not, then you are the problem.
    there are comparables for almost every position
    even something as rare as NFL quarterbacks. but you can see the range they are paid and then compare the quality of the employee you have and pay them accordingly within that range
    the economic demand for people with a particular skill set is set by the economy. from your posts, you seem to be of the opinion that an arbitrary compensation value should be implemented instead. it's thinking like that by business owners which drives companies into the ground
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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