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    Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill - Montreal - CBC News

    A committee on dying with dignity was assembled during Jean Charest's tenure as Quebec premier to study the issue and produce a report.
    Its massive report, filed in March 2012, provided the foundation for Bill 52.​


    However, Liberal Leader Philippe Couillard refused to play ball with the PQ when the party tried to force the bill into passage right before calling an election. Bill 52 died on the order paper as a result.


    During the 2014 Quebec election campaign, Couillard promised to reintroduce the bill as it was drafted at the earliest possible moment during the new parliamentary session.


    He also got the support from all four parties to reintroduce the bill at the stage it had died, instead of starting from square one.
    While I'm all in favor of the idea behind it, I have some reservations about the way it will be implemented. Will doctors be forced to comply with this law? What happens when they refuse to grant services? My daughter had dual citizenship (Canadian and American) and I'm well acquainted with some of Canada's more questionable healthcare laws. I think in practice this is a viable option for people who are non-religious and facing terminal illnesses and don't want to suffer. However, there are too many questions left open.
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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    From what I read in the law, it appears as if any physician can refuse the request, however they must forward the request to someone else higher up so that the request can go to someone willing to grant the request.
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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    I'm glad to see the first steps on the subject have been taken.

    Yes, it most definitely needs to be well defined, with all measures in place to prevent abuse of the right to die by anyone other than the terminally ill person. I hope that the US sees the benefits of such a measure, and enacts it also.
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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill - Montreal - CBC News



    While I'm all in favor of the idea behind it, I have some reservations about the way it will be implemented. Will doctors be forced to comply with this law? What happens when they refuse to grant services? My daughter had dual citizenship (Canadian and American) and I'm well acquainted with some of Canada's more questionable healthcare laws. I think in practice this is a viable option for people who are non-religious and facing terminal illnesses and don't want to suffer. However, there are too many questions left open.
    It sounds like too little and they can keep the dignity. Pain free and when I want it, is fine by me.

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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    From what I read in the law, it appears as if any physician can refuse the request, however they must forward the request to someone else higher up so that the request can go to someone willing to grant the request.
    Apperently that is what they say. It is amazing because aside from ads against the bill I didnt hear much about this. But they were talking about it last night as they voted and again this morning.
    Seems kinda strange to me that this would only really start making news here as it passed. But then maybe I was just being oblivious.
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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quebec does not need this.

    Just refuse to speak to a Quebec francophone doctor in French and many will just deny you medical care out of spite.

    It's called Bill 101M (M for Medical).


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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    From what I read in the law, it appears as if any physician can refuse the request, however they must forward the request to someone else higher up so that the request can go to someone willing to grant the request.
    Hmm..

    It seems to me that is forcing physicians to be accessories.

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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Hmm..

    It seems to me that is forcing physicians to be accessories.
    No, it isn't. People have a right to die if they wish. They should not have to turn in government paperwork (which is required) to several different people just to find that one who will help them die with dignity. We are talking about people who are already dying and in great pain here.

    And considering the majority of them are likely to ask for something like this through a hospice, it shouldn't matter anyway.
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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it isn't. People have a right to die if they wish. They should not have to turn in government paperwork (which is required) to several different people just to find that one who will help them die with dignity. We are talking about people who are already dying and in great pain here.

    And considering the majority of them are likely to ask for something like this through a hospice, it shouldn't matter anyway.

    If someone doesn't desire to take part in a certain act and makes that desire clear, but the law requires them to find someone else to take part in the act in their stead, they are an accessory to the act since they assisted in finding someone that would do it.

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    Re: Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Quebec passes 'dying with dignity' bill - Montreal - CBC News

    While I'm all in favor of the idea behind it, I have some reservations about the way it will be implemented. Will doctors be forced to comply with this law? What happens when they refuse to grant services? My daughter had dual citizenship (Canadian and American) and I'm well acquainted with some of Canada's more questionable healthcare laws. I think in practice this is a viable option for people who are non-religious and facing terminal illnesses and don't want to suffer. However, there are too many questions left open.
    Religion has nothing to do with dying with dignity.

    Doctors shouldn't be forced to comply. There will be many who don't want to be involved. There will be many who will have no problem with it. Seems like those same politicians who want to get into our bedrooms want to get into our heads. If someone has a terminal illness...or an illness that profoundly effects their quality of life...it's no one else's business WHAT they want to do.

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