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Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl If I

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The excuse is that they extorted him into trading 5 top terrorists for 1 soldier...and now they are actually making the claim the reason they broke the law is because the Taliban threatened him? Yeah...it changes things a LITTLE bit. It makes him look even MORE like an impotent little bitch.

If of course you actually believe their excuse. Which I dont.
 
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MaggieD said:
I'd say it was. Maybe they planted a Trojan Horse. ;)
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What good will it do when BO lost his one Taliban leader who he was trying to get Peace talks going with the Taliban? Now that he has come up missing in the UAE. Or now that the Taliban has their men back and they still now wont come to the Negotiating table.

We have no people in Qatar talking with their people.

The New Afghan government was kept in the dark on this too. Which even this new President of their told BO he would sign the agreement that Karzai wouldn't. This lets BO keep 9800 of people there and keeps us there for another decade.

Why is BO negotiating with Terrorists?
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Congress not told of swap because Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl if it leaked
This news is just now breaking and this is all the info on it now. If this is true, does this change the situation a lot or anything?
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First of all it looks like the article associated with this link has been removed.

Secondly, why would the Taliban threaten to kill their only hostage knowing some of their brethren are still detained at Gitmo?

Better yet, why would Obama fall for this blackmail when he obviously has the upper hand.

If the Taliban's only hostage is killed, they would have no more bargaining power to have the five captives at Gitmo released.

It just doesn't make sense.
 
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votemout said:
Changes nothing and is only being told about to protect the now criminal president.
That has got to be the shortest article ever, which just screams BS.
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You have so much information I wonder who gives it to you? Oh yeah you just make things up because you hate having THIS MAN as YOUR PRESIDENT.
 
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clownboy said:
Just means the President is an idiot who can't figure out a simple thing like informing congress without the enemy finding out. The excuse doesn't sound at all real.
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No it means he knows there are members of Congress who hate him more than they love the country and would leak it because they have done things like that in the past.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1063366088 said:
First of all it looks like the article associated with this link has been removed.

Secondly, why would the Taliban threaten to kill their only hostage knowing some of their brethren are still detained at Gitmo?

Better yet, why would Obama fall for this blackmail when he obviously has the upper hand.

If the Taliban's only hostage is killed, they would have no more bargaining power to have the five captives at Gitmo released.

It just doesn't make sense.
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Well, I don't think the Taliban is quite as concerned with having their members killed as the U.S. is with having their citizens killed. The Taliban has freaking suicide bombers! Also, I'm pretty sure the Taliban have a bunch more American hostages (POWs) than just this guy.

That said, you never, ever negotiate with terrorists like President Osama did.
 
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Sababa said:
You have so much information I wonder who gives it to you? Oh yeah you just make things up because you hate having THIS MAN as YOUR PRESIDENT.
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Comon, this administration is blatantly incompetent - now there's a case to be made for blatant incompetence if no serious damage is done, and so far it's just a lot of smaller incompetency and lies. You know quantity over quality.
 
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Ockham said:
Comon, this administration is blatantly incompetent - now there's a case to be made for blatant incompetence if no serious damage is done, and so far it's just a lot of smaller incompetency and lies. You know quantity over quality.
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Yeah, and then when it says some official who leaked this or that but demanded anonymity. Yet works for BO's team.

One just wonders what is always being leaked out.....huh Ockham. :2wave:
 
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The Man said:
Well, I don't think the Taliban is quite as concerned with having their members killed as the U.S. is with having their citizens killed. The Taliban has freaking suicide bombers! Also, I'm pretty sure the Taliban have a bunch more American hostages (POWs) than just this guy.

That said, you never, ever negotiate with terrorists like President Osama did.
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My point is why would the Taliban risk not having their five detainees at Gitmo released by killing their only US military hostage? If the threat was made It had to be hollow.

Who would fall for that?

I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Bush. :wink:
 
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MMC said:
Well and other than the fact that BO was constantly criticizing Bush over it.....yet then the Bottom line. He signed the bill into law.
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Yup, as I have always maintained, Obama is Bush on steroids. LOL.
 
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danarhea said:
Yup, as I have always maintained, Obama is Bush on steroids. LOL.
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That's why BO is also wrong about releases with these guys. We don't need to make the mistake Bush did when he released some. As thats how the schmoe who wasn't a Leader. Left went back to the fight. Was praised and given props. Became a leader, He then became the Head of AQIL.

Except for one difference here......who BO released. Again.....I keep saying what most think and what the Afghans themselves think. No battlefield for them. They will sit back in their limos and use phones we can't tap. Then decide the battlefield.


BO has increased the Risk on All Americans overseas, going overseas, and Our Military Personnel. While Putting a sign on the Backs of the 9800 he will be leaving in Afghanistan. He also Has increased the Risk to the country.....with the release of these guys.
 
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Sababa said:
You have so much information I wonder who gives it to you? Oh yeah you just make things up because you hate having THIS MAN as YOUR PRESIDENT.
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We have a dictator not a president, hated Bush also make you feel better?
 
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Sababa said:
No it means he knows there are members of Congress who hate him more than they love the country and would leak it because they have done things like that in the past.
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Sorry, but in this case I don't think that's the reason. After all, it was Senator Feinstein, a Democrat, who publically objected that she wasn't told, and she Chairs that committee! Obama tried to go around the rules and it backfired - but why didn't Obama trust his own people not to leak something of this importance?
 
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Six terrorist were released not five.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl
Mullah Norullah Noori
Abdul Haq Wasiq
Khairullah Khairkhwa
Mohammed Nabi Omari
Bowe Bergdahl
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Congress not told of swap because Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl if it leaked
[/URL]This news is just now breaking and this is all the info on it now. If this is true, does this change the situation a lot or anything?
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Changes nothing at all. For demands and desires of the Taliban do not override our LAW.
 
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SgtRock said:
Six terrorist were released not five.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl
Mullah Norullah Noori
Abdul Haq Wasiq
Khairullah Khairkhwa
Mohammed Nabi Omari
Bowe Bergdahl
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Heya Sarge
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......it goes back to even when Karzai released a bunch of them. Of course BO protested.


Afghanistan Releases 65 Prisoners from Parwan Facility ......


Afghanistan has released 65 accused militants from a former U.S. detention facility near Bagram Air Base, despite warnings from the United States.

Afghan officials said Thursday that the prisoners were freed from the Parwan Detention Facility earlier in the day. Among those scheduled to be released was Mohammad Wali, whom the United States says is a Taliban explosives expert who targeted U.S. and Afghan forces.

The United States has protested the release of those prisoners since President Hamid Karzai announced several weeks ago that the prisoners' cases had been reviewed by the government and they had been cleared for release.

In comments to reporters during a visit to Ankara (,Turkey) Thursday, Mr. Karzai defended the release saying the action "is of no concern to the U.S."

Mr. Karzai says he hopes the U.S. will "stop harassing" Afghanistan's procedures and judicial authority and begin to respect the country's sovereignty. .....snip~

Afghanistan Releases 65 Prisoners from Parwan Facility
February 13, 2014 <<<<< !

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-po...keon-announces-hearings-bergdahl-swap-10.html
 
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Sababa said:
No it means he knows there are members of Congress who hate him more than they love the country and would leak it because they have done things like that in the past.
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False. Congress has routinely been entrusted with bigger, more controversial, more dangerous and more important secrets than this. :peace
 
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MMC said:
Actually.....you are. So says McKeon Chair of the Senate Arms Committee.


The House Armed Services Committee will investigate President Obama’s decision to circumvent Congress in swapping five Guatanomo Bay prisoners for Arm Sgt. Bowe Berdahl, the panel’s chairman said Monday.

“We will be holding hearings. I’m sorry this is being portrayed as a Republican issue,” Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) said on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown.”

McKeon said Obama “broke the law” by not informing Congress 30 days before he released the five Taliban detainees from Guatanomo and sent them to Qatar. …

McKeon noted that National Security Adviser Susan Rice on Sunday said the deal had been in the works for some time, and said Congress should have been informed along the way.

“I don’t know who they were talking to. I have not been a part of this and I’m the chairman of the committee,” he said.

“Now we’re 72 hours after the fact, and they still haven’t told us how they’re going to ensure that these five, top-level Taliban terrorists are not coming back into the fight,” McKeon said.....snip~

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-po...-mckeon-announces-hearings-bergdahl-swap.html
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That's the problem with jumping in the middle of conversation...you apparently missed the fact we were talking about the Bin Laden raid.
 
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iliveonramen said:
That's the problem with jumping in the middle of conversation...you apparently missed the fact we were talking about the Bin Laden raid.
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TheDemSocialist said:
Congress not told of swap because Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl if it leaked
This news is just now breaking and this is all the info on it now. If this is true, does this change the situation a lot or anything?
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Who believes this bull****? No one with a brain will believe that they would kill the deserter and spoil a chance to get five of their generals. HELL NO! They had nothing to gain by killing him.
 
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Ya.... that sounds realllll believable.... (not) Thats why they keep releasing crap on how good of a prisoner he was and got along with taliban captors...

Pretty sure they are just making this crap up after the fact. And even if its true that would mean Obama is appeasing terrorists?
 
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iliveonramen said:
Depends on the importance of the data. Sometimes only select committees or individuals get the data.

When Bush was President he limited highly classified intelligence to 10 key members of congress in fear of leaks.

Believing that Congress won't leak highly classified intelligence or information is a huge gamble.
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But Fenton is right. Pres. Obama didn't have to tell Congress. He only had to inform the House and Senate Intel Committees of his intentions and swore them to secrecy just as he did with the OBL raid. This is one of those situations where I believe the President did the right thing under the wrong circumstances.

Fenton said:
BS the Senate Armed Services committee knew in advance of the Bin Laden raid.

And they kept it to themselves.

Obama is appealing to the idiots with this latest lie.
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I wouldn't have negotiated with the Taliban. The Taliban in conjunction w/the Afghan government is another story.
 
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Objective Voice370669 said:
But Fenton is right. Pres. Obama didn't have to tell Congress. He only had to inform the House and Senate Intel Committees of his intentions and swore them to secrecy just as he did with the OBL raid. This is one of those situations where I believe the President did the right thing under the wrong circumstances.



I wouldn't have negotiated with the Taliban. The Taliban in conjunction w/the Afghan government is another story.
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Obama actually negotiated with the Haqqani network, which is the funding arm of thw Taliban.

Leads me to believe money changed hands at some point
 
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