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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    That's when you reply "If you kill him, we will view that as an act of aggression and retaliate." Or, he could be weak and circumvent congress and give in to the demands of terrorist groups. Or did they seriously not think they could inform congress without the Taliban finding out either?
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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But they didnt release the terms of the release until after the release. They didnt release the date, the deal, etc, until after the release itself.
    The deal that they agreed to was the same deal they had presented numerous times in the last 2 years. If Obama broke the law by not notifying congress because the Taliban demanded it then he should be impeached tomorrow.



    It wasnt a secret that we were negotiating. The agreement and all the details however were a secret.
    Bull**** they were, DS. How many articles do you need to see from the last 2 years that contained the same details as were in the final deal before you admit this is a lie by the WH? This exact deal was rejected by congress TWICE.

    Hell before all this happened the GOP was all over this trying to get him home.
    Not by releasing 5 top Taliban leaders they weren't. How can you be so dense that you can't understand how people could support negotiating for Bergdahl's release and still be pissed off by the deal the President agreed to and the cowardly excuses he gives for why he did it?


    He was "strong armed"?

    The WH excuse that you just posted admits that he caved to pressure from the Taliban. If you buy the WH excuse de jour then the Taliban dictated the deal to the WH and told the WH to break the law by not telling Congress as required, and Obama did just that.
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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm guessing that you are rudely referring to former President Jimmy Carter here. I'm so sick of terms such as "Ronnie Raygun" that lower the discourse bar.
    What?

    Carter prided himself on his "peanut farming." It's not my fault he loves peanuts and has earned his nickname though that pride. If I wanted to be "rude" I would start talking about "Billy Beer" and how much **** his president brother got him out of,

    I just think it's funny that he believes hes just this "everyday" farmer - when the only president that has actually showed that he is just an "everyday" individual is George W Bush.

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't see how any of this could have or should have been "classified" we swapped prisoners in WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam not to mention Iraq and it was all public information.

    Barack "Mr. Transparency" Obama did this behind the backs of the American people..... The people should have known about this exchange before it happened, and the only thing that makes this "top secret" is the fact Obama traded 5 terrorists for 1 military dissenter.

    The funny part is this is exactly what Peanut Boy Carter would have done.

    So now we have 5 terrorists that are obviously plotting their next attack by now all so we can reprimand a US soldier....

    What type of trade is that?

    I wouldn't even call this a trade I would call it a gift to terrorists.
    What we now have is 5 terrorists back home planning the next 9/11, and an unhappy sympathizing deserter back home free to act as a plant. Said plant now has the ear of the president.

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What?

    Carter prided himself on his "peanut farming." It's not my fault he loves peanuts and has earned his nickname though that pride. If I wanted to be "rude" I would start talking about "Billy Beer" and how much **** his president brother got him out of,

    I just think it's funny that he believes hes just this "everyday" farmer - when the only president that has actually showed that he is just an "everyday" individual is George W Bush.
    Oh, yes, attacking a President's siblings or children is definitely raising the bar.

    Oddly, I never really thought of former President Carter as a peanut farmer. Naval Academy, grad studies in nuclear physics, and later, a successful business, then a political career, and then humanitarian work including decades'-long involvement with Habitat for Humanity.

    Out of all this, what you got was "Peanut Boy."

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    OMFG.

    "Let's see . . . what do we have to say to make this go away?" I don't believe it for a moment.

    Is this excuse, then, a reason the president may always act unilaterally? It's bull****.
    Heya Maggie. Do you think this explain Placing the National Interests and Security of the Country over that of one individual.

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    If this is true and Congress was not informed because the Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl if that happened, then why weren't the pertinent Congressional people informed of that when the White House contacted them to apologize for not informing them? Not a single one said the White House gave them a good reason for not informing them other than Bergdahl was practically at death's door. Well he obviously wasn't practically at death's door, but only an idiot would believe this new story has any chance to be believable by anybody other than the hard core Obama worshippers.
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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This boils down to a signing statement that Obama had previously made in regard to this requirement, in which he contended that the notification requirement was an unconstitutional infringement on his powers and that he therefore could override it.

    And here is the irony. When Bush was in power, he executed many signing statements, which Republicans supported, and Democrats pilloried him for it. Now that Obama is in power, Democrats support his signing statements, while Republicans pillory him for it. What's the difference, you ask? The Party holding the White House at any given time, and that president's detractors. "The Hypocrite Boogie" has always been Washington's theme song.

    Well and other than the fact that BO was constantly criticizing Bush over it.....yet then the Bottom line. He signed the bill into law.

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually you're just wrong.

    The gang of 8 was notified which only included leadership of the parties and the two chairs of the intelligence committees.


    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB...Document14.pdf


    Not really, the Bin Laden raid was a covert operation and allowed the President to only notify leadership and heads of the intelligence committees. He met the requirements of the law.

    This required a Congressional notification not just key individuals. He would of broke the law if he only notified key leadership.


    Honestly discussing anything with you is a trial in patience. It's incorrect fact followed by an ad hom attack followed by another incorrect fact.

    Actually.....you are. So says McKeon Chair of the Senate Arms Committee.


    The House Armed Services Committee will investigate President Obama’s decision to circumvent Congress in swapping five Guatanomo Bay prisoners for Arm Sgt. Bowe Berdahl, the panel’s chairman said Monday.

    We will be holding hearings. I’m sorry this is being portrayed as a Republican issue,” Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) said on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown.”

    McKeon said Obama “broke the law” by not informing Congress 30 days before he released the five Taliban detainees from Guatanomo and sent them to Qatar. …

    McKeon noted that National Security Adviser Susan Rice on Sunday said the deal had been in the works for some time, and said Congress should have been informed along the way.

    I don’t know who they were talking to. I have not been a part of this and I’m the chairman of the committee,” he said.

    Now we’re 72 hours after the fact, and they still haven’t told us how they’re going to ensure that these five, top-level Taliban terrorists are not coming back into the fight,” McKeon said.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...dahl-swap.html

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    Re: Officials: Congress Not Told of Swap Because Taliban Threatened to Kill Bergdahl

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    What we now have is 5 terrorists back home planning the next 9/11, and an unhappy sympathizing deserter back home free to act as a plant. Said plant now has the ear of the president.
    I don't know what the intent of the deserter actually is, however I know what the intent of the terrorists are - unless you believe in reformed terrorists which terrorists cells believe are an asset - otherwise they wouldn't be coveted.

    Now you don't trade 5 terrorists with malicious intent for some idiot who probably scored 45 on his ASVAB.

    If this was the Cuban Missile Crisis and Obama was in charge the US would be either a nuclear wasteland or we would all be part of the USSR if these are Obama's negotiating skills.

    Now the simple fact he traded 5 for 1 goes way beyond his "social justice" nonsense which progressives love and digs deep into weather or not Obama is or ever was a suitable president in the first place.

    When it comes to economics and US social policy I can deal with difference of opinion but when it comes to weakness such as this with securities it really paints a picture of how weak we are under this administration. Do you feel safe under Obama?

    If you have paid any attention to geopolitics you would realize that Obama is considered an absolute retarded token present, that lets China rip us off and is about to let the USSR rise again.

    I don't give a **** if Obama is Purple but his foreign policies are absolutely horrible and if Castro wasn't dead amongst other communist leaders we would have Putin up our ass right now - Thank God Kim Jong-Il has passed because his son Kim Jung-Un doesn't know how to run a country - he's too obsessed with managing his own totalitarian state - if he had more time he would start ****ing with Obama and Obama would know what to do but pay money or **** bricks.

    Of course most posters around here only give a **** if Justin Beiber is a racist or not - that's all legal and illegal citizens of the US care about.
    Last edited by Mr.Nick; 06-05-14 at 05:24 PM.

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