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Thread: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

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    It's just a business. When I can get some I pay about 25cents a DVD (real dvd not bootleged) I sell them for 1-1.50 wholesale... Is it immoral or shady? yeah... But the markup is amazing.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think carrying rifles into a store is a bit asinine. But when people want to take away ones constitutional right, those in favor of retaining their rights will push back. I would never carry my rifle or shotgun into targets or any other store, but if I was wearing my .38 I would give it a second thought. But actions like this, carrying rifles in a Target store is what happens when some people want to trample on other people’s rights. Both sides go to the extremes.
    Target banning people from carrying their guns in their stores does not do anything to anyone's Constitutional rights.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Would you have the same concern if an individual had a pocket knife? do you honestly believe a gun owner is any different than a knife owner?
    I am not sure what you are trying to say. If someone has a knife and attacks me in a Target I have a good chance of fighting him off. If he starts opening fire with a rifle then I have less of a chance of fighting back. So yeah there is a difference.

    As a gun enthusiast myself included gun owners are more than willing to safely show their firearms off in a more than safe matter - and on top of that tech gun safety...
    I wish I could translate what you are trying to say here.


    99.9% of gun crime is the result of stolen guns (at least in the lower 48) - yes accidents occur like every other job but the odds of a 20 ton piece of machinery is way falling on you is greater than being shot by a gun a legal gun owner is more obscure than being shot by a legal gun owned by a family member.
    Making up statistics is fun. 99% of gun owners who feel the need to carry their rifles into Target with them have erectile dysfunction. See that was fun.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So discrimination exists within the confines of a business yet the Bill of Rights stays at the door?

    I love how modern Libertarians and progressives have ganged up to promote SOCIAL INJUSTICE.
    Ignorance is fun too..... The 2nd amendment protects you from the government stopping you from owning a gun. It does not apply to someone telling you you can't bring your gun into their business. Now you can get the local government to pass a law to allow it, but until it becomes illegal to stop you they are in the right and your 2nd rights are still intact.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You sound like a cop, but private property is a semi-isssue here.

    If gay couples can literally force bakeries to bake them cakes then were does our civil liberties lay? - these are questions I have pondered now for quite some time. Especially Prop8 which was democracy.... It's not the issues I'm concerned about it's the lack of respect for our Bill of Rights or even domestic/state ideas in which the government actually believes they can legislate your life away - if they go through the right channels.

    I really just want to see the Constitution upheld and not abused and abused by the state or the federal government.
    OMG are people just not able to learn or choose not to read.
    1. The bakery was in a place with an anti-discrimination law. Th law is Constitutional and so if they want to operate a public business they have to follow the law. It is that simple.

    2. Prop 8 violates the rights of citizens. You can't pass a law that violates the Constitution even if a majority wants it.

    3. Funny you are upset that the public should be able to pass a proposition to limit rights and then say something about the state taking your life away.

    Go back and read the thread and try again.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Target banning people from carrying their guns in their stores does not do anything to anyone's Constitutional rights.
    I agree, what I said and meant that it was asinine carrying rifles into the store. But I can understand why some people would think this is a good thing. After years and years of gun suppression laws, sometimes if one wants to maintain a right given to Americans as a whole, one has to at times go to the extremes as the other side with government backing has already carried all of this to the extremes. It is called for lack of a better word, push-back.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores? | Today's Question | Minnesota Public Radio News

    So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights. If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.
    Wasn't that in Texass? well, if I ever shopped at target, and saw some looney tune carrying a rifle, I would exit the place immediately. Notice I said IF.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    no doubt i'm in the minority on this... the majority does tend to **** it's pant in fear when they see a firearm in the open... well, unless it's attached to a government agent , anyways.

    Americans, in general, are a scared people... so it's doesn't strike me as odd that many would be scared at the sight of a firearm.
    at this point, it's an automatic condition for many.

    I wouldn't carry a rifle shopping, because, well, it's too bulky and not very practical.... but every day i walk into a store.. usually Target or HEB.. i'm carrying.

    these guys were obviously making a political statement... and it's a legal political statement... and i'm ok with that.

    nobody was shot, nobody was killed...the rifles remained slung..nothing bad happened.
    Just because you can legally do something diesnt mean you should.

    A bunch of guys walking into Target with rifles may be legal and Target may allow it, but scaring the crap out if a bunch of soccer moms is stupid beyond words. Those idiots simply confirmed every negative stereotype that the general public may have about gun owners. Morons.
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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree, what I said and meant that it was asinine carrying rifles into the store. But I can understand why some people would think this is a good thing. After years and years of gun suppression laws, sometimes if one wants to maintain a right given to Americans as a whole, one has to at times go to the extremes as the other side with government backing has already carried all of this to the extremes. It is called for lack of a better word, push-back.
    agreed.... i find myself supporting this type of "blowback" for the reason you have stated... admitedly, it's not the most mature way to rationalize, but since when has maturity ever entered into this issue?

    in addition, i have no problem with Target banning firearms from their store ( in contrast to "their property"..that's a no-go.).. I most likely will not respect their policy, and in all likelihood, I'll ignore it without them ever knowing while I continue to carry concealed.... but i do believe they have the authority to set those types of policies.

    I do find it interesting that folks automatically assume these guys are terrorists or up to no good though.... it's an interesting and far fetched assumption.... it's kinda like assuming every lottery ticket you buy is the big winner.. both assumptions ignore the numbers.
    one would be infinitely more likely to be correct if they assumed these guys were simply carrying the rifles with no intention of ill will or harm.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    If the law of the state is open carry, open carry it is.

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