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Thread: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The Bill of Rights is a (partial) listing of rights that the government must respect. Until the early 1900s it applied only to the Federal government. After that, under the incorporation doctrine, most of the BoR also applied to the states.

    It does not apply to private citizens.
    Yeah the Bill of RIGHTS is just that - the rights of the people. Now there is certain debate where the rights originated - weather it was Divine Provenience or numerous other factors - but anyway you acknowledge, analyze or ponder the Bill of Rights they were given to man - not to government.

    The Magna Carta of 1212 clearly points this out - and is the prerequisite of our Bill of Rights, which gave individuals rights NOT the government.

    This isn't a matter of opinion - it's fact..

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I've purposely kept my comments non-political, and have been very careful not to disparage gun owners - I am one. Most, the vast majority in my experience, are good, responsible people, but my point was I DO NOT KNOW THEM ALL so why would anyone assume that guy with the rifle is one of them, and is safety conscious, has had good training and practices what he's learned.

    Have you ever shot on a range? Did they allow those not shooting to keep their firearms loaded and ready? It's been a while for me, so maybe rules have changed and now everyone is locked and loaded at all times....
    You ever think if you changed "gun owners" to "blacks" there would be a different outcome??

    Progressives would take a **** on you.

    I know you don't want to make this a political issue, yet it is and progressives want it to be.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah the Bill of RIGHTS is just that - the rights of the people. Now there is certain debate where the rights originated - weather it was Divine Provenience or numerous other factors - but anyway you acknowledge, analyze or ponder the Bill of Rights they were given to man - not to government.

    The Magna Carta of 1212 clearly points this out - and is the prerequisite of our Bill of Rights, which gave individuals rights NOT the government.

    This isn't a matter of opinion - it's fact..
    I never said they weren't rights of the people. What I said was that they are rights that GOVERNMENT has to respect. I, as a private citizen, largely do not have to respect those rights on my property. Here's a excerpt from wikipedia:

    The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. Proposed to assuage the fears of Anti-Federalists who had opposed Constitutional ratification, these amendments guarantee a number of personal freedoms, limit the government's power in judicial and other proceedings, and reserve some powers to the states and the public. While originally the amendments applied only to the federal government, most of their provisions have since been extended to the states by way of the Fourteenth Amendment, a process known as incorporation.
    from United States Bill of Rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Don't be a grammar nazi - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, Book 1 #7

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores? | Today's Question | Minnesota Public Radio News

    So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights. If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.
    I have no problem with these guys openly carrying...and I have no problem with Target allowing it.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    It is good to see the "rightists" push the rifle thing over-the-top in full view of Target America.
    Hey gun extremists, please continue the rhetortical plunge off the Golden Gate Bridge .
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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I have no problem with these guys openly carrying...and I have no problem with Target allowing it.
    I have problems with both so Target will have to weigh those of us who would feel mighty uncomfortable shopping around gun nuts carrying rifles and their supporters.

    Suspect I'm part of a very large majority of shoppers.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I have problems with both so Target will have to weigh those of us who would feel mighty uncomfortable shopping around gun nuts carrying rifles and their supporters.

    Suspect I'm part of a very large majority of shoppers.
    no doubt i'm in the minority on this... the majority does tend to **** it's pant in fear when they see a firearm in the open... well, unless it's attached to a government agent , anyways.

    Americans, in general, are a scared people... so it's doesn't strike me as odd that many would be scared at the sight of a firearm.
    at this point, it's an automatic condition for many.

    I wouldn't carry a rifle shopping, because, well, it's too bulky and not very practical.... but every day i walk into a store.. usually Target or HEB.. i'm carrying.

    these guys were obviously making a political statement... and it's a legal political statement... and i'm ok with that.

    nobody was shot, nobody was killed...the rifles remained slung..nothing bad happened.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I never said they weren't rights of the people. What I said was that they are rights that GOVERNMENT has to respect. I, as a private citizen, largely do not have to respect those rights on my property. Here's a excerpt from wikipedia:



    from United States Bill of Rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You sound like a cop, but private property is a semi-isssue here.

    If gay couples can literally force bakeries to bake them cakes then were does our civil liberties lay? - these are questions I have pondered now for quite some time. Especially Prop8 which was democracy.... It's not the issues I'm concerned about it's the lack of respect for our Bill of Rights or even domestic/state ideas in which the government actually believes they can legislate your life away - if they go through the right channels.

    I really just want to see the Constitution upheld and not abused and abused by the state or the federal government.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It is good to see the "rightists" push the rifle thing over-the-top in full view of Target America.
    Hey gun extremists, please continue the rhetortical plunge off the Golden Gate Bridge .
    god, you anti-gunners must really be pissed off that we have our constitutional rights...

    good.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    god, you anti-gunners must really be pissed off that we have our constitutional rights...

    good.
    Not an anti-gunner--making you what ?
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