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Thread: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    So, I can use my First Amendment rights to hold a church service on your private property?
    Or, do I need to have your permission to do so?
    that depends on the nature of my property... i'm within my rights to exclude anyone from my home, however, commercial property wi5th public access is considered a bit different from my home.

    if I have property that is commercially available for use as a gathering hall, a church could probably file suit against me if i refuse them public access on a religious basis.
    much in the same way a certain bakery can't discriminate against gays based on a sexual orientation basis.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Until those scaredy cats start voting for people who are determined to make your life difficult.
    I vote too.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    The 2nd Amendment doesn't apply here since the government isn't involved.
    Government is always involved.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He fears guns in the hands of others.
    I don't mind the insults - I 'fear' guns in the hands of others - but what's mystifying is I explained my position several times. Wouldn't it be easier to respond to those reasons instead of making up stuff?

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores? | Today's Question | Minnesota Public Radio News

    So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights. If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.
    The first though I had when I saw this thread was why in the hell is this in the Breaking News MSM forum? It's not even really "news", it certainly isn't "breaking news", and Minnesota Public Radio isn't exactly MSM. It's a subject for the Gun Forum.

    The second thought I have is... Duh! Target has the right to allow or not allow guns in their store as they see fit. This isn't a gun control issue at all.

    The third thought is... why did I even waste my time reading through this? It's an artificial "news" story designed to get people all riled up about nothing. Based on many of the responses in this thread, it worked.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
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    if I have property that is commercially available for use as a gathering hall, a church could probably file suit against me if i refuse them public access on a religious basis.
    And if you owned a store, I would need your permission to hold a church service in the store, or even in the parking lot (providing you owned that). Nor can I excersize my right to free speech with out your permission (distribute leaflets or hold a rally).

    Now if "Target" were a shooting range, then perhaps your analogy might fit.

    In short, I still retain my rights to free speech, religion, bear arms- I just need to have your permission to use those rights on your private commercial property. You dont even owe me an explanation if you tell me to go away and excersize all those rights somewhere else.

    I have no idea whether they should, or should not. What I do know is that it is entirely up to them.
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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Because one is a person and the other is an object. Not serving a gay person affects the person not being able to purchase an item. Not allowing a gun in the store does not restrict the person from purchasing an item.
    but it does effect that persons right to exercise his/her civil rights in public access facility.

    as i have said, I don't have a problem wit ha store having the authority to set a policy on firearms within the confines of their store... I really don't.
    (as i have also said, I have no problem ignoring said policies either)... I don't like the idea of transferring the responsibility for my safety to those whom are wholly ill equipped to provide for that safety... but if they want to set that policy.. fine by me.



    I do find it interesting that after years and years of saying " guns are just a tool" and being told they are deadly lethal people killing monsters... that now thee is a bit of a different shoe on a different foot thing going on.
    all of a sudden, guns are just an object for the purposes of this debate.

    obviously guns are a bit more than "just an object" or we wouldn't be discussing this anymore than we would be discussing banning the open carry of staplers... so what makes this mere object a bit different?... well 2 things as i see it... the potential for it to be used as the deadly lethal people killing monster... and the constitutional right protections that is afforded.

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Only someone on the extreme far-wrong would equate engaging in perverted sexual activities in public with openly exercising one of one's most essential Constitutional rights.
    We have a Constitutional right to bear arms in Target stores?

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What if you're a Quaker....
    Are there any Quakers left in the world?

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    Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't mind the insults - I 'fear' guns in the hands of others - but what's mystifying is I explained my position several times. Wouldn't it be easier to respond to those reasons instead of making up stuff?
    Wasn't an insult.

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