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Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

I never claimed they couldn't - but if they can ban guns (which is something ironically they sold) they can ban gays if they want.

not if there is a law against it.

It's a two-way street here.

no not even in the same city

Do you really recommend stepping over that line? because it's only asking for trouble.

over the line of businesses deciding what is best for their business?
Let people do what they do and live free until they actually physically hurt someone.

Target is free to ban guns.
who have they hurt?
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

not if there is a law against it.



no not even in the same city



over the line of businesses deciding what is best for their business?


Target is free to ban guns.
who have they hurt?

Really? show me an Amendment that upholds homosexual marriage. And don't even attempt to show laws that legalized interracial marriage because gays are NOT interracial, and quite frankly I'm getting upset at gays comparing themselves to slaves or even interracial couples.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Really? show me an Amendment that upholds homosexual marriage. And don't even attempt to show laws that legalized interracial marriage because gays are NOT interracial, and quite frankly I'm getting upset at gays comparing themselves to slaves or even interracial couples.

anti-discrimination laws in some place require businesses open to the public to not discriminate against gay people. So....a bakery that sells cakes cannot discriminate against a gay couple wanting one for their wedding. As for you getting upset about something I didn't do well great. But I think you are just upset that there are gay people in the world and that Target has a right to ban open carry in their store. You should relax.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Target is free to ban guns.
who have they hurt?
Lets say I ignore the ban: who have I hurt?
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

anti-discrimination laws in some place require businesses open to the public to not discriminate against gay people. So....a bakery that sells cakes cannot discriminate against a gay couple wanting one for their wedding. As for you getting upset about something I didn't do well great. But I think you are just upset that there are gay people in the world and that Target has a right to ban open carry in their store. You should relax.

You do realize that forbidding individuals from open and carry is a discrimination - not only against the individual but discriminating against the Second Amendment.

Furthermore - homosexuality is NOT a civil liberty - owning and displaying guns are, so you're attempting to turn a fringe argument into a civil liberty which obviously isn't - anyone who has ever taken a civics class damn well knows homosexuality is not a "civil liberty." Now, I know you actually believe it is and wish it was but it's not hence it's not legal "discrimination."

I suppose you may have a discrimination case with EOE if a homosexual was denied employment based on his sexuality - but that is a far cry from a civil rights argument.

Of course you wouldn't understand the difference so I can't say I'm shocked.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Sex and bare feet aren't constitutional issues. ;)

But what if you have a foot fetish. LOL
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Frankly, since they are a privately owned business, they probably have the right to restrict just about anything that isn't constitutionally protected.

Business can restrict Constitutionally protect stuff as much as they want since the Constitution only applies to the Government and not private business.
 
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So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights. If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.


No they should not.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

True, but their intent was not to die other wise they would just have killed them selves like most of the nut jobs. Their intention was to do harm. neither attack would have happened if they knew that most of their intended victims were packing

Most mass shooters kill themselves and the ones that don't often admit that "suicide by cop" was their goal. Just like control laws have no impact on criminals, the presence of armed people has no impact on those who aren't thinking rationally.
 
Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores? | Today's Question | Minnesota Public Radio News

So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights. If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.

Target is private property. They can do as they please.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Most mass shooters kill themselves and the ones that don't often admit that "suicide by cop" was their goal. Just like control laws have no impact on criminals, the presence of armed people has no impact on those who aren't thinking rationally.

That's an interesting thought. The guy who shot up the theater in Aurora Colorado, for example, walked up an aisle firing as he went, across, and then down, firing as he went, completely unimpeded and unopposed because the city didn't let folks carry guns, tossed his weaponry as it jammed, and then went around to his vehicle which he had parked out back and hung around waiting to be arrested; and was so non-violently.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

That's an interesting thought. The guy who shot up the theater in Aurora Colorado, for example, walked up an aisle firing as he went, across, and then down, firing as he went, completely unimpeded and unopposed because the city didn't let folks carry guns, tossed his weaponry as it jammed, and then went around to his vehicle which he had parked out back and hung around waiting to be arrested; and was so non-violently.
I thought it was the theater policy, not city ordnance.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

That's an interesting thought. The guy who shot up the theater in Aurora Colorado, for example, walked up an aisle firing as he went, across, and then down, firing as he went, completely unimpeded and unopposed because the city didn't let folks carry guns, tossed his weaponry as it jammed, and then went around to his vehicle which he had parked out back and hung around waiting to be arrested; and was so non-violently.

And whatever happened, the point is that the presence of armed people wouldn't be something that would be likely to give him pause. He was going to do what he was going to do and no gun control laws or lack of them was going to change his mind.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

I should be able to carry a gun into your home against your will in case you try to kill me.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

I should be able to carry a gun into your home against your will in case you try to kill me.
Residence isnt open to the public, public accommodation doesn't apply.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Residence isnt open to the public, public accommodation doesn't apply.

You think a lot of the Republicans in this thread are going to back public accommodation laws?
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

You think a lot of the Republicans in this thread are going to back public accommodation laws?
Seeing as how more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats, and the champion of the Act was a Conservative Republican who also strongly supported gun rights, who came from a state which opposed slavory before the civil war...yeah.
 
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Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

I should be able to carry a gun into your home against your will in case you try to kill me.
...and if I pull a gun on you to protect my home from an armed intruder and I try to disarm you you can shoot me ...right?
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Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

I thought it was the theater policy, not city ordnance.

Nope. We found that out when the gun-control folks started chanting about how Colorado is a fairly gun state, so obviously concealed carry doesn't save lives.... and so then someone went and dug up the city rules which forbade them.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

And whatever happened, the point is that the presence of armed people wouldn't be something that would be likely to give him pause. He was going to do what he was going to do and no gun control laws or lack of them was going to change his mind.

Nope. Just his longevity and the number of people he was able to murder. Or perhaps his choice of targets.
 
Re: Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?

Most mass shooters kill themselves and the ones that don't often admit that "suicide by cop" was their goal. Just like control laws have no impact on criminals, the presence of armed people has no impact on those who aren't thinking rationally.
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No law has impact on criminals. The States/Cities where more citizens carry and that it is more conservative on gun laws have a lower rate of violent crime as opposed to the opposite where gun laws are more restrictive violent crime is higher.
 
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