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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Actually reverse osmosis (RO) which is the process used in most desalination facilities is a comprehensive purification process. It is the same process used in most of your water treatment plants. So that isn't true.
    Treating river water from melting snow packs is different that treating sea water.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    If these seven states got rid of their golf courses their water shortages would be greatly mitigated.
    Golf courses are the single greatest waste of water on the planet.
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    Attempting to turn areas in the desert south west into the verdant green hills of Scotland during a water shortage is nothing short of insane.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Treating river water from melting snow packs is different that treating sea water.
    The process is actually very similar. It's just your psychological perception that a melting snowpack is clean and pristine that makes you think it's very different. That being said the process of desalination is much more expensive and involved than your local water treatment plant! But the physics and chemistry involved are nearly identical (assuming your facility uses RO).

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The biggest obstacle is cost. It might work for domestic use, but not for agriculture, at least not unless a much less expensive way can be found to accomplish it.
    Probably true. That's why I cited a 10-15 year development period because I think graphene and other advances in material science will dramatically reduce the cost making this plausible even for agriculture but not in the interum where it will be used to alleviate drought conditions for drinking water.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Probably true. That's why I cited a 10-15 year development period because I think graphene and other advances in material science will dramatically reduce the cost making this plausible even for agriculture but not in the interum where it will be used to alleviate drought conditions for drinking water.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    California wouldn't have drought problems if it fell into the Pacific Ocean.
    When California finally gets some rain...after all the wildfires, it probably will slide off into the ocean.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I know, lets put a huge population base in the desert south west. Who's idea was that? Really though people gravitate to good weather and the south west has it so we get down to the fact that there are just too many people.
    It's not too many people, it's too many Yankees. Folks from up north or back east who think we can turn deserts into green suburbs where the homeowner needs to mow once a week. American Exceptionalism pretending we don't have to obey the most basic laws of nature. Wichita Falls Tx has entered stage 5 drought, they have never had a stage 5 drought and so they had to hammer out what to do. NOW they are going to recycle water from the waste treatment plant. Seems we act only at the last second and with very poor results.

    And on the subject of who gravitates to 'good weather' seems businesses gravitate toward short term gains because they know they can skip out whenever the well literally runs dry- both in incentives and drinking water.

    So it appears businesses moving to the bribes blossoming in the arid lands think it's a good idea....

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It's not too many people, it's too many Yankees. Folks from up north or back east who think we can turn deserts into green suburbs where the homeowner needs to mow once a week. American Exceptionalism pretending we don't have to obey the most basic laws of nature. Wichita Falls Tx has entered stage 5 drought, they have never had a stage 5 drought and so they had to hammer out what to do. NOW they are going to recycle water from the waste treatment plant. Seems we act only at the last second and with very poor results.

    And on the subject of who gravitates to 'good weather' seems businesses gravitate toward short term gains because they know they can skip out whenever the well literally runs dry- both in incentives and drinking water.

    So it appears businesses moving to the bribes blossoming in the arid lands think it's a good idea....
    We don't have good weather around here, at least not in the summer time. The heat is unbearable at times.

    On the other hand, there isn't much in the way of winter.

    But people don't come here to enjoy the dirty air and hot weather. People are here because we have some of the most productive farmland in the country.

    Now, people do come to the California coast because of the climate. It never gets cold, seldom gets hot, and hardly ever rains. That last one can be a bit of a problem however.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The growers on the West side of the San Joaquin valley do.
    Him and Sacramento.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Please spare me the faux-macho "you're an alarmist" claim.
    No one is going to go thirsty anytime soon, but this is a serious issue already affecting food prices nationwide.
    Summer, oft the driest season is approaching in many places, it could get worse. It could go on for years more in some of these areas too.
    This also is a big issue in the arid states viability.
    Texas is booming with plenty of oil but little water.

    Seven states running out of water
    Alexander E.M. Hess and Thomas C. Frohlich
    USA Today via 24/7 Wall St.
    6:30 a.m. EDT June 1, 2014
    Seven states running out of water
    I read it was 5 states, either way, bad news for sure.

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