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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You are an optimist.
    And I hope you're right.
    And perhaps the solution is on the ag side. Maybe more "targeted" watering. Drip, hydro, etc.

    Up to 80% less water for some crops/methods.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I am in Texas, and it's been bad for several years now, especially last summer and now. I live about 15 miles from a lake, and when I drive over the bridge going into town for the past few months, there are sand bars visible everywhere. It's pitiful. It's not the worst drought Texas had had, but it's the worst I've seen since I lived here.
    I am glad I don't live in Texas.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And perhaps the solution is on the ag side. Maybe more "targeted" watering. Drip, hydro, etc.

    Up to 80% less water for some crops/methods.
    Oh, they do that.
    Drip irrigation is the norm around here. It is not a complete solution because (1) there still isn't enough water, and (2) the soil still needs an occasional flush to get rid of the salts that are left behind when drip irrigation evaporates.

    Drips bring chemicals to the surface of the ground, mostly salt and alkali. That has to be gotten rid of periodically, or the soil becomes worthless.

    But, sure, drip is a good idea, and does save water.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'd have to wonder just what burning (bleep!) inside the house must smell like.

    I have seen waterless urinals in the national parks and some rest stops. They seem to work fine.
    That's why they're vented to the outside. Also why they go through a converter, strips the odor vented out.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

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    That's why they're vented to the outside. Also why they go through a converter, strips the odor vented out.
    Mmmm.. I hope my neighbors don't get one.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Mmmm.. I hope my neighbors don't get one.
    There's no odor outside either. Again, goes through a catalytic converter specially designed for that purpose.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There's no odor outside either. Again, goes through a catalytic converter specially designed for that purpose.
    Well, then, maybe it does have a use.
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Facts?

    The only fact is that some hate people with money and big business for whatever reason - usually it's envy rather than judge a business or an individual on a rational level.
    Oh, where to start...there's so much fun stuff in here!
    Well I guess if you're the kind who thinks opinions are the same thing as facts, but I harbor no hatred of wealth as my own economic health is in good standing. So why would I practice self-hatred?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post

    For example I don't see progressives bashing the millionaire Al Gore or Soros, yet they have no problem bashing anyone and any business in which they don't know their political affiliation, so politics as well plays a role in how some judge businesses and those with money.

    Quite frankly I'm getting sick of it....
    We're all over the map today, aren't we? Al Gore's in the oil business? Soros? Hmmm, maybe he is, could you find a link to that for me please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    As far as fracking - I really don't give a ****, because if a progressive was fracking NO progressive would give a ****.
    Here is a fire hydrant ON FIRE - your argument is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Now, if you want food, clothing, water, computers, TV, internet and all the luxuries you're accustom to - you need ENERGY, and for some strange reason progressives don't comprehend that idea. Apparently "liberals" er progressives believe all this **** grows on trees. There is not ONE viable and efficient source of energy that progressives support.
    Hey I support all forms of energy because I am realistic enough to understand that even petroleum will be here for quite some time to come.
    My issue has more to do with the fact that the petroleum business wishes to maintain a monopoly on things like transportation fuel, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing wealthy players doing their level best to kill off alternatives, would we?

    We wouldn't have seen BP, Shell and Exxon manipulating oil prices for well over a decade, we wouldn't see further manipulation by speculators aimed at slowing the growth of alternatives. We wouldn't see state after state lining up to pass bills aimed at stopping Tesla direct sales.
    Oh wait, isn't that big government stepping in to regulate? Uh ohhh, guess it's okay when it protects established interests like car dealers and oil companies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So until we can find a viable alternative or "green" source of energy we're going to need oil, coal and nuclear energy to keep civilization going.
    You know, the funny thing is, fracking, like all other forms of oil and natgas exploration, CAN be done in a SAFER manner.
    I didn't say that there's a 100% safe method, I am saying that there are safer "best practices" and methodologies.
    And oil companies would adhere to those best practices if they had to, except that they got a sweetheart deal that exempted them from nearly ALL regulations back around the turn of the millenium, so now individual entities are having to sue them one by one instead, to force them to adopt best practices.
    But it's like so many other aspects of big business.
    See, I do understand the nature of corporations. They by their very nature cannot HAVE a conscience.
    Regulations function as a de facto substitute for a conscience and, while I can name lots of examples of unnecessary regulations, the fact is, some regulations ARE necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Now, I don't really give a **** if progressives like it or not because I like my internet and my electronics more than I like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Also, who gives a **** about oil anyways?
    Uhhhhh....we all do, we don't have much choice in the matter. It's the sole source, or damn close to it, for transportation energy.
    That's going to change soon of course. Electric cars are today roughly where the home VCR was in 1972 when Sony gave us the BetaMax, a $3500 playtoy for rich folks. Five years later they were under $499, ten years later they were under a hundred bucks, with better features, performance and mature technology.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    do you actually believe oil is the life blood of the earth or something?
    As I said above in so many words, it's the lifeblood of modern industrial civilization.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    in reality all oil is - is decomposed organic material, and theoretically it's a renewable resource. Also, we have only tapped 10% of the oil.
    Whoa, did you just say that oil is "renewable"?
    So you're not only a Rand worshipper, you're also a believer in abiogenic oil too?

    Lemme guess, Jerome Corsi in "Black Gold Strangelhold"....amirite?
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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    Well, we should make Dune a required study for all California schools.

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    Re: Seven States Running Out of Water

    I don't know why in areas on the coasts why they don't redesign their plumbing systems so that toilets use salt water instead of fresh water...

    IMO, plumbing engineering is completely wrong and outdated.

    In theory desalinization units should be placed in every home on the coasts - that way you can use sea water to bathe or for your toilet or even drink.

    Hell, even the local water plants could desalinize salt water.

    Once again tho it's not in the best interests of certain people to do such a thing.

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