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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

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    Eveyone's light bill is going up 80%. That ain't cheap!

    I can't see damn near doubling peoples's light bills based on faked research as being a great idea.
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    There's no doubt about who's lying...lol!

    Fakegate: The Obnoxious Fabrication of Global Warming - Forbes
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    Oh please, More than once those scientists "allied" with the IPCC have been caught falsifying data. They have been caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, they in their own emails proved they have engaged in covering up/ hiding their own data flaws. But what these yahoos claim to be the truth even with all its flaws and falsifying data, ends up to be the standard for folks like those working at our EPA who are responsible for all these massive regulations about to be shoved on us. Now if this standard is sufficient for you, then why have standards at all?
    This is all right-wing conspiracy propaganda.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Did I?

    Is water vapor also a pollutant then?
    You've always seemed like a reasonable person, don't fall into this silliness.

    Yes there are many greenhouse gases and factors that contribute to global warming. A natural level of Co2 in the air certainly isn't pollution. When man releases gigatons of carbon over centuries it is no longer natural and it becomes a pollutant if you want to call it that. Playing semantics doesn't change the science of what is going on.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    This is all right-wing conspiracy propaganda.
    That's all Left Wing denial.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    This is all right-wing conspiracy propaganda.
    Yeah right. I have some real estate on the F-ring of Saturn you might be interested in.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Water isn't carbon dioxide. Don't try to deflect. This thread is about carbon dioxide, not your silly conspiracy theories about liberals trying to control your drinking water.
    "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." Dave Barry

    CO2 is absolutely necessary for plant growth, as everyone knows. Have their been studies made that show otherwise? Also, at what levels does it cause plant life to die?

    Greetings, Deuce. "2wave:

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's all Left Wing denial.
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    "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." Dave Barry

    CO2 is absolutely necessary for plant growth, as everyone knows. Have their been studies made that show otherwise? Also, at what levels does it cause plant life to die?

    Greetings, Deuce. "2wave:
    Co2 is great in some ways. Plants evolved during a period in which Co2 levels on Earth were much higher than today so they contain the potential to absorb more. Increased Co2 causes plants to grow faster as it amplifies photosynthesis. This is all well and great but carbon's greenhouse effects in the atmosphere produce a warming which is far more bad than good. The biggest problem is that the warming is occurring much too rapidly for many species to evolve. This leads to mass extinction and a chaotic upset to ecosystems around the world. Life is largely interconnected so if you take away a species that another species relies on it creates a chain reaction of failure.

    Evolution to the current environment works great over millions of years, not so well over centuries.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Co2 is great in some ways. Plants evolved during a period in which Co2 levels on Earth were much higher than today so they contain the potential to absorb more. Increased Co2 causes plants to grow faster as it amplifies photosynthesis. This is all well and great but carbon's greenhouse effects in the atmosphere produce a warming which is far more bad than good. The biggest problem is that the warming is occurring much too rapidly for many species to evolve. This leads to mass extinction and a chaotic upset to ecosystems around the world. Life is largely interconnected so if you take away a species that another species relies on it creates a chain reaction of failure.

    Evolution to the current environment works great over millions of years, not so well over centuries.
    The problem is that the climate scientists can't figure out why global warming has slowed down dramatically.
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Co2 is great in some ways. Plants evolved during a period in which Co2 levels on Earth were much higher than today so they contain the potential to absorb more. Increased Co2 causes plants to grow faster as it amplifies photosynthesis. This is all well and great but carbon's greenhouse effects in the atmosphere produce a warming which is far more bad than good. The biggest problem is that the warming is occurring much too rapidly for many species to evolve. This leads to mass extinction and a chaotic upset to ecosystems around the world. Life is largely interconnected so if you take away a species that another species relies on it creates a chain reaction of failure.

    Evolution to the current environment works great over millions of years, not so well over centuries.
    Is China on board? I remember the work they had to do to get the air cleaned up in time for the Olympics. Since the major winds travel West to East in our country, it seems logical to assume that we are breathing some of their polluted air. We can regulate at great cost to clean our own air, but what good will it do if everyone doesn't follow the same guidelines?

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Did I?

    Is water vapor also a pollutant then?
    Is there some large injection of water vapor into the atmosphere that humanity is engaging in that I'm not aware of? Because if human activity has increased water vapor content in the atmosphere by 40%, then I'd say yes, that could be classified as a pollutant.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Is China on board? I remember the work they had to do to get the air cleaned up in time for the Olympics. Since the major winds travel West to East in our country, it seems logical to assume that we are breathing some of their polluted air. We can regulate at great cost to clean our own air, but what good will it do if everyone doesn't follow the same guidelines?
    Other people hypothetically polluting or continuing to pollute is not justification for our pollution.

    Yes, China continuing to screw up will hinder the goal. But a singular hold out from a global effort is likely to be the recipient of economic sanctions.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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