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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    this is absolutely the wrong way to do it. the right way to do it is to publicly and privately expand our grid with renewables and nuclear, and then shut down the coal plants. then, we do a NASA-style moonshot to replace oil. Obama's plan amounts to a regressive tax on the poor, and NG prices will shoot up, as well. probably bought and paid for by T. Boone Pickens.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    this is absolutely the wrong way to do it. the right way to do it is to publicly and privately expand our grid with renewables and nuclear, and then shut down the coal plants. then, we do a NASA-style moonshot to replace oil. Obama's plan amounts to a regressive tax on the poor, and NG prices will shoot up, as well. probably bought and paid for by T. Boone Pickens.
    That won't satisfy the environazis whose goals is to destroy these industries, not take reasonble steps that assure the grid's maintenance and growth through the introduction of proven technologies.
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    this is absolutely the wrong way to do it. the right way to do it is to publicly and privately expand our grid with renewables and nuclear, and then shut down the coal plants. then, we do a NASA-style moonshot to replace oil. Obama's plan amounts to a regressive tax on the poor, and NG prices will shoot up, as well. probably bought and paid for by T. Boone Pickens.
    What Obama is doing is basically the only thing that is politically feasible and its going to be another "scandal" or outrage. If we could make things happen however we want of course things would be done differently.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Scientists recommend this. It's a step in the right direction. We need to do everything we can to curb Co2 emissions.
    Yes scientists funded by governments whose vision is to desire a mechanism that will bring about world redistribution of wealth.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That won't satisfy the environazis whose goals is to destroy these industries, not take reasonble steps that assure the grid's maintenance and growth through the introduction of proven technologies.
    The goal is to save the ecosystems of the world. We could care less about your precious fossil fuel industries that spend millions every year convincing people like you the end of the world is near if their profits are threatened.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Scientists recommend this. It's a step in the right direction. We need to do everything we can to curb Co2 emissions.
    Everything? How about going back to a pre-industrial society?
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes scientists funded by governments whose vision is to desire a mechanism that will bring about world redistribution of wealth.
    Oh please , go to the conspiracy forum.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

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    Everything? How about going back to a pre-industrial society?
    Hysterical tantrum. Why don't we just take some measured steps to fix the problems with minimal cost and intrusiveness? Because the end game is to transition away from fossil fuels and that industry is the most profitable in history.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Hysterical tantrum. Why don't we just take some measured steps to fix the problems with minimal cost and intrusiveness? Because the end game is to transition away from fossil fuels and that industry is the most profitable in history.

    Hysterical? Really? I was curious as to whether you really meant what you said. Measured steps are fine. In the vast majority of cases "doing everything" to solve a problem leads to even worse problems.
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    The goal is to save the ecosystems of the world. We could care less about your precious fossil fuel industries that spend millions every year convincing people like you the end of the world is near if their profits are threatened.
    Let's say you are 100% correct. Do you really believe that by the U.S. doing ALL of this, while the rest of the major countries like China, Russia, etc. do nothing that it will make the "difference" needed to turn the tide? The U.S. is already a "clean" country compared to the rest of them while the other countries are full steam ahead INCREASING their CO2 output.

    Point being that until you get countries like China and Russia on board, forcing the cuts, forcing the increase in costs, is doing nothing but hurting Americans and crippling our economy. And my point is only assuming you are 100% correct. I don't believe you are, so basically you are crippling the U.S. economy, while hurting Americans. Good job!

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