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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Lemme guess, another conservative outrage is just around the corner.

    For now, this is only a proposal. The EPA will spend the next year gathering comments from electric utilities, environmentalists, and anyone else who cares to weigh in. It will then issue a final regulation that takes effect in June 2015. States will then have until June 30, 2016 to draw up plans to implement the rule. - Source
    Do you not have any concept what it entails to re-tool an industry with every friggin regulation that is forced upon it? Do you realize how expensive it becomes for that industry to comply which results in major increases to their consumers? Do you have any idea how long it takes to complete such requirements? A fargin year will not be enough time to comply. And conveniently by design they have made the implementation date 4 months before the country has a chance to vote those jerks out of office. The idea that these "proposed" radical regulations can be forced on industry/people without even taking it before Congress is disgusting. The idea that an unsettled science and an EPA full of members of the Church of the Enviromentalists have such power over us all needs to be addressed as soon as that bozo is out of office.
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Additional action on cutting emissions is long overdue.

    The proposed changes are very flexible. It allows states to use a variety of methods to reach the caps, such as putting in renewables, using NG, and setting up interstate cap-and-trade systems. It will reduce other pollutants, which will obviously improve health. Coal plants will have years before needing to retire; given how many of them are pushing 50 years of age, and how inefficient they are, I find it hard to see how that's such an awful thing.

    While I do not take the EPA's job numbers at face value, the same goes for the US Chamber of Commerce, which has long been a tool of the Republican Party. It certainly does not strike terror into my heart.

    Maybe we'll get a bunch of these...


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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Run fer yer lives!!! Its gunna kill jerbs its gunna kill murica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Run fer yer lives!!! Its gunna kill jerbs its gunna kill murica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Hahaha killing jobs is funny. Hahaha.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Hahaha killing jobs is funny. Hahaha.
    Killing the environment we depend on is even funnier.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Lemme guess, another conservative outrage is just around the corner.

    For now, this is only a proposal. The EPA will spend the next year gathering comments from electric utilities, environmentalists, and anyone else who cares to weigh in. It will then issue a final regulation that takes effect in June 2015. States will then have until June 30, 2016 to draw up plans to implement the rule. - Source
    No doubt they'll be backing way off for the final version.
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Killing the environment we depend on is even funnier.
    Does anyone really believe that this proposal will save the environment?

    Anyone, anyone???
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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That does seem to be the way it's going, give more and more power to the executive branch....
    The balance of powers rarely tips entirely in one direction. It is usually a back-and-forth.

    E.g. it is well within the powers of Congress to pass laws that override these types of executive actions. They just need the votes. Or, if the executive action was genuinely unconstitutional, the SCOTUS could shoot it down.

    And yeah, this pretty much is how the Constitution is set up.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does anyone really believe that this proposal will save the environment?

    Anyone, anyone???
    One thing it will accomplish will cause a lot of people to hurt financially. Especially at a time in our history when more people have given up on looking for work and are on government assistance. Which means that those who are still working will be required to pay more to cover the utilities of those who are not working or are considered below poverty and entitled to assistance for such things. The less money people have to spend the more anemic the economy will become.

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    Re: Obama administration to announce controversial emissions cap on power plants

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does anyone really believe that this proposal will save the environment?

    Anyone, anyone???
    Scientists recommend this. It's a step in the right direction. We need to do everything we can to curb Co2 emissions.

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