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    King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Big, big news day here in Spain. After 39 years on the throne, King Juan Carlos of Spain is abdicating in favour of his son, the Prince of Asturias, Don Felipe de Borbón y Borbón.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27662301

    I think this is a sensible move. Don Juan Carlos's health has been fairly poor of late and he's certainly less mobile than he needs to be to be an active monarch. It's also a political move to draw a line under the criticisms and suspicions that people have about the corrupt activities of other members of the royal family (not Don Felipe, btw) which of late have been subtly implicating the King himself. Public support for the institution of the monarchy has been declining for some time, since the news of the corrupt activities of the King's son-in-law and, as it has later emerged, those of his daughter, the Infanta Cristina. The King's own lavish hunting trips, in which he would use Spanish military transport for these personal jollies, enraged the populace, drowning as they were under austerity measures and record unemployment.

    Some commentators have even been raising the idea of a referendum to decide upon the idea of returning Spain to being a republic. The King's decision to abdicate may indeed draw a line under that discussion for a time. Prince Felipe has a much better and cleaner public image than most of the rest of the royal family, so a new start with him as Head of State might be just what the monarchy needs.

    Any thoughts on the king, the Spanish monarchy or the prospect for the reign of the new King Felipe VI?
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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Wow, why abdicate though? Why not just do a standard royal succession?

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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Wow, why abdicate though? Why not just do a standard royal succession?
    Because to do that he'd need to die. I think he thought the alternative was preferable.
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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    I don't know how active the monarchy is in Spain,
    but fresh ideas, and bold leadership, could go a long way towards
    correcting whatever is broken.
    I hope Spain returns to financial stability,
    it is one of my favorite places on Earth.

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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Big, big news day here in Spain. After 39 years on the throne, King Juan Carlos of Spain is abdicating in favour of his son, the Prince of Asturias, Don Felipe de Borbón y Borbón.

    BBC News - King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    I think this is a sensible move. Don Juan Carlos's health has been fairly poor of late and he's certainly less mobile than he needs to be to be an active monarch. It's also a political move to draw a line under the criticisms and suspicions that people have about the corrupt activities of other members of the royal family (not Don Felipe, btw) which of late have been subtly implicating the King himself. Public support for the institution of the monarchy has been declining for some time, since the news of the corrupt activities of the King's son-in-law and, as it has later emerged, those of his daughter, the Infanta Cristina. The King's own lavish hunting trips, in which he would use Spanish military transport for these personal jollies, enraged the populace, drowning as they were under austerity measures and record unemployment.

    Some commentators have even been raising the idea of a referendum to decide upon the idea of returning Spain to being a republic. The King's decision to abdicate may indeed draw a line under that discussion for a time. Prince Felipe has a much better and cleaner public image than most of the rest of the royal family, so a new start with him as Head of State might be just what the monarchy needs.

    Any thoughts on the king, the Spanish monarchy or the prospect for the reign of the new King Felipe VI?
    How significant is the percent of the population that wishes to do away with the monarchy?

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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Because to do that he'd need to die. I think he thought the alternative was preferable.
    Well if he really wanted to make a statement...

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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    He does look frail these days. The Beeb showed him shakily walking with two sticks. His big moment was when he faced down the Civil Guard coup attempt.
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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    How significant is the percent of the population that wishes to do away with the monarchy?
    It's between 40 and 50% of the population that believes Spain should get rid of the monarchy. This is the most recent opinion poll that I could find, dating from January this year. It's in Spanish, but the relevant question is:

    ¿Respalda la Monarquía como forma de estado para España? - Do you support the monarchy as the best form of state for Spain? It's in the fifth graphic. The responses were 'Yes' - 49.9%; 'No' - 43.3%, 'Don't know, don't understand' - 6.8%. Just a year ago, those results were: Yes - 53%, No - 41%, DK/DU - 5.2%.

    El apoyo a la Monarqua sigue cayendo pero crece la valoracin del Prncipe Felipe | Espaa | EL MUNDO

    Now, those stats might change, but no one yet knows in which direction. That article comes from a right-leaning, pro-monarchist newspaper, El Mundo.

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post

    ¿Respalda la Monarquía como forma de estado para España? - Do you support the monarchy as the best form of state for Spain? It's in the fifth graphic. The responses were 'Yes' - 49.9%; 'No' - 43.3%, 'Don't know, don't understand' - 6.8%. Just a year ago, those results were: Yes - 53%, No - 41%, DK/DU - 5.2%.
    6.8% were English tourists who got lost

    This being Granada there have already been massive demonstrations about this, you would think people would have other priorities and this point in time

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    Re: King Juan Carlos of Spain abdicates

    You know, I had all but forgotten Spain still had a King.

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