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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It grows itself with "mandatory" spending and all sorts of "crisis" and "emergency" additions to the continuing resolutions which have apparently replaced the need for a "budget".
    Budgets have never stopped the inexorable growth of government. It is the spenders who make the budgets.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbler View Post
    Cruz ? Mr. lets dismantle Social Security ?

    Hahaha !

    This is why the Republicans will loose...again.
    You mean SS isn't already dismantled?
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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    He may want a smaller federal gov't role but has little control over what our congress critters actually pass. The POTUS can only veto bills but cannot independently make the law.
    IMO, this is the narrative frustrated or ineffective leaders all too often promote. The reality is that effective governance requires building and sustaining relationships across party lines, which makes it possible for people who disagree to sound one another out in an honest fashion, develop an incentive to find common ground, avoid destructive posturing in areas where they differ, and have the trust in one another to reach agreements.

    President Reagan demonstrated this over and over again in making progress toward his overall policy goals. President Clinton learned this and was able to reach many of his overall policy goals, particularly during his second term. In contrast, approaches where the President chooses a sort of insulation from the Legislative Branch or embraces a passive view that leaves the policy initiative largely or solely to Congress can only lead to an ineffectual Presidency.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Rand Paul would be my first choice for 2016 GOP nominee as he is simply poison to the party, the ticket and most of the nation. I
    f he cannot get it, a crazy like Cruz might be the next best thing.



    Cruz for president and Rand for vice president would be a pretty good ticket.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Cruz for president and Rand for vice president would be a pretty good ticket.
    Yeah if you want President Hillary Clinton sure.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    It has become increasingly likely that the GOP will have no one to field that isn't crazy.








    I don't have a crystal ball, but it's obvious to me that the Democratic party is likely to control the White House for a long time.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Let's see, GOP's last few candidates... Romney, McCain, Dole, and Bush. 3 out of 4 lost. Bush had two close elections. All four are moderates, no where near conservative. Last conservative, Reagan. Won in two tremendous landslides. In two elections, he won something like 97 out of 100 states.
    Yeah, why nominate a conservative like Cruz? We're doing so well with the moderates!
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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has won the latest presidential straw poll at a conservative summit in Louisiana.

    Cruz took 30 percent of the vote at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans. He edged out conservative speaker and author Ben Carson.

    Read more here: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit




    What doe's anyone think about this?

    My thoughts are that neither Cruz, nor Carson will ever see the inside of the White House except as guests.

    I doubt that either one of them will be the GOP's candidate.
    Straw polls are basically meaningless. But if you are interested in polls for the GOP nomination, here you go:

    RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination

    I would be paying attention to the polls above more so than any straw poll. Cruz is running an average of 6 points.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I don't have a crystal ball, but it's obvious to me that the Democratic party is likely to control the White House for a long time.
    I think you are right - with or without a crystal ball. What they really need to overcome is this persistent anti-Obama rhetoric. The middle of the road folks get it -the RIght hates Obama. We have had years of hearing that they hate Obama, Obamacare, etc.

    Those all important middle of the road voters need to hear what the candidate is for - specifically - and what his plans are. Being against Obama is not a plan. Being against Obamacare is not a plan. I think until well thought out plans that have the possibility of passing (means working together) are put out there - the Dems will remain in office.

    But of course, nothing will actually change in American politics until Big Business/Unions etc are out of the back pocket of politicians.

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    Re: Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah if you want President Hillary Clinton sure.



    Who does the GOP have that can beat Hillary?

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