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    Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    (CNN) -- Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the American soldier held captive for nearly five years by militants during the Afghanistan war, has been released in exchange for five Guantanamo detainees, authorities said Saturday.

    "Today the American people are pleased that we will be able to welcome home Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl," the White House said in a statement.

    Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said in a separate statement that he had informed Congress of the decision to transfer five detainees from Guantanamo Bay to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, who was the only remaining American soldier captured from conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "A few hours ago, the family of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was informed by President Obama that their long wait for his return will soon be over," Hagel said.

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    I'm extremely happy that this guy is coming home.

    The White House says this was a prisoner swap, for five "terrorists" (my word, not theirs) being held at Gitmo.

    That said, there are a lot of questions to be answered here. Just a few are:

    Why did Bergdahl "wander off" from the base and get captured in the first place? He had sent a number of emails to his parents saying he was having second thoughts about joining the Army, for instance. Technically, he was AWOL when he left the base and got captured. Did he go off base just to take a walk and think? Or, was it desertion? We won't know until he's debriefed.

    Why did we agree to release five terrorists? The names of the five released terrorists are Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa, Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Nori, Abdul Haq Wasiq and Mohammad Nabi Omari. Not just some enemy soldiers doing their job as members of another national army. These guys were hard core terrorists.

    What happened to "We don't negotiate with terrorists?"

    Did they pin these guys before releasing them?

    Are they being tracked?

    And, many other questions.

    None of which should lessen the fact that we've finally lived up to our military creed of Leave No Man Behind. As I started my comments above: I'm extremely happy that this guy is coming home.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    What happened to "We don't negotiate with terrorists?"
    We still don't negotiate with terrorists. The Taliban in Afghanistan were never designated by the State Department as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, the only Taliban group so designated is Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP). Now, Rep. Howard McKeon of California and Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma have said Obama violated the law, by not giving Congress 30 days' notification.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    An interesting turn of events.

    Do you actually believe the government when it says things? Including 'we don't negotiate with terrorists?'

    It's easy to tell when a politician is lying--his lips are moving.

    It might be that the man left his unit on purpose. Some go to war and become more perceptive of the truth, some go and become less perceptive and more brainwashed. Judging from what has been written in the press, this man may have become disgusted with what he was doing.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Mr Unilateral with his pen bypassed Congress in undertaking the swap. He's a total ****up as President, and making it worse everyday. Laws mean nothing to him personally. No doubt his crooked attorney general told him it was okay.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    i support the decision 100%.

    one valued life against 5 un-valued lives.
    Go Vols

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    There is clearly a lot more to this story than meets the eye. Of course there is the 'no negotiation with terrorists' bit to start with. But it appears that this guy might have been a deserter and just walked away from his camp. Some others that were there with him are telling this story, and they are rightfully pissed off because several good men died looking for him. Apparently the guys father is a very left wing anti-war guy and as recently as the 28th of May was tweeting about how he was working to free all prisoners in Gitmo. Hmm. Of course there is also the 30 day notification and the justification for bypassing it by the administration which is based on the presidents signing statement saying that a 30 day notification was 'unconstitutional'… hmm. And the reality that the 5 people swapped out have some seriously bad history and clearly are very high risk (if free) to America and our allies. If just one of them is found to go back to what they were doing (and they all will), I don't see how this swap can be justified, or how any new blood shed brought on by these 5 would not be all over the hands of the current administration.

    I'd love to see the big networks actually dig into all of this, but I doubt they will, and it will back up the whole 'in the pocket' bit that appears to be the case for 6 years now.

    So sad journalism is dead.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    If he is well enough, maybe he can be assigned the task of getting those 5 back.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    We still don't negotiate with terrorists. The Taliban in Afghanistan were never designated by the State Department as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, the only Taliban group so designated is Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP). Now, Rep. Howard McKeon of California and Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma have said Obama violated the law, by not giving Congress 30 days' notification.
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    The five that were released were senior members of the Taliban that worked with, coordinated with and in all intents and purposes were members of, Al Qaeda as well. And, that is according to the Obama Administration as shown by my previous post's link. The guy that drives the car to the bank robbery is just as guilty of bank robbery and the guy that hides the murderer before and after the murder is just as guilty of murder. The Taliban is just as guilty of terrorism as Al Qaeda is. These guys can be easily labeled as, described as and found guilty of being, terrorists.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    i support the decision 100%.

    one valued life against 5 un-valued lives.
    Serious question: How would you describe any people that die at the hands of these five now that they have been released, because there will undoubtedly be many that do die at their hands now? Valued lives? Or, unvalued lives?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Serious question: How would you describe any people that die at the hands of these five now that they have been released, because there will undoubtedly be many that do die at their hands now? Valued lives? Or, unvalued lives?
    The same as you would describe 5 others killed in an automobile accident--dead. Signal 7, as the local cops say.

    Automobile accident or any other cause, including from a US drone strike.

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