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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It looks like congress was trying to infringe on the presidents powers through the defense budget bill. If the GOP doesn't take Obama to court for breaking their law, then I think it safe to assume the statute is probably unconstitutional. Besides I think it's to the GOP's advantage that the court doesn't decide the case because it allows them to continue to falsely accuse Obama of breaking the law. See how that works? lol
    Obama signed the damn thing into law! He wasn't worried about it's constitutionality, then.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Did you see the story on Bergdahl's father? The man grew a long beard and learned the language while his son was captive, and stated he would go get his son himself if necessary! He actually looked like a member of the Taliban, so he may have tried!

    Greetings, Lutherf.
    There's a lot of "weird" going on with both father and son.

    I'm not about to start jumping to conclusions but I suspect that there's a very interesting debrief happening in Landstuhl right now.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You won't send out teams to go renegading across no-man's land looking for a deserter.

    The Tals used Bergdahl as bait in several ambushes.

    No. But if you have some basic information on where to look you're certainly going to do that and it's my understanding that's exactly what happened. From what I've read it seems that the military started by checking in with local elders and that the Taliban guys made demands right off the bat.
    https://wikileaks.org/afg/event/2009...0630n1790.html

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    No. But if you have some basic information on where to look you're certainly going to do that and it's my understanding that's exactly what happened. From what I've read it seems that the military started by checking in with local elders and that the Taliban guys made demands right off the bat.
    https://wikileaks.org/afg/event/2009...0630n1790.html
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's yet to be official, but a lot of folks with more credibility than Bergdahl have confirmed it.

    There's even a credible suggestion that not only is Bergdahl a deserter, but possibly a collabarator.

    Report: “Many” in intelligence community fear Bergdahl may have been an active collaborator with the Taliban Hot Air
    That is a possibility. But then if he was a deserter then why didn't the intelligence community object to his promotion in absentia to sergeant in 2011? Why would he be in line for another promotion, to staff sergeant, this month? I don't think he is a hero....but...but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.


    Wikileaks leaked some classified military memos from the day that Bergdahl disappeared and at that time the only info they had was a Taliban email interception saying he was kidnapped while using a latrine and a report of an American with a camera asking villagers if anyone spoke English and then followed by his subsequent capture because of a sighting of a man with a bag over his head getting escorted away in a white vehicle surrounded by motorcycles.

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    Some info about the Patika Province where Bergdahl was stationed....
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?300275-...vince&desktop=
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Dang......Obummer can't seem to do anything right.......he frees an American 'POW'........and it turns out the dude is a deserter and possible collaborator with the enemy.........he's making Jimmy Carter look good.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Here we have 6 of the worst terrorists in Gitmo with blood on there hands traded for a deserter whom 6 of his fellow soldiers died trying to find him. This will have to go down as one of the worst most idiotic pathetic moves ever by a US president. What are the chances that most if not all of these guys go back to the battlefield at some point and kill more Americans or our Allies? But hey the president looks good for now eh Obama drones? Pathetic !

    Even Jimmy Carter wouldnt have made this deal........

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    That is a possibility. But then if he was a deserter then why didn't the intelligence community object to his promotion in absentia to sergeant in 2011? Why would he be in line for another promotion, to staff sergeant, this month? I don't think he is a hero....but...but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.


    Wikileaks leaked some classified military memos from the day that Bergdahl disappeared and at that time the only info they had was a Taliban email interception saying he was kidnapped while using a latrine and a report of an American with a camera asking villagers if anyone spoke English and then followed by his subsequent capture because of a sighting of a man with a bag over his head getting escorted away in a white vehicle surrounded by motorcycles.

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    Some info about the Patika Province where Bergdahl was stationed....
    US Operations Paktika Province | Video | C-SPAN.org
    We have word from multiple sources in the military, guys in his unit that say he called them after he deserted & told them he did so.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama signed the damn thing into law! He wasn't worried about it's constitutionality, then.

    Yes, it was very clever how the GOP stuck an unconstitutional statute into the 2012 defense budget bill. Obama had to sign it into law so the military could get paid. But Obama also took an oath to uphold the constitution and that means he isn't obligated to enforce unconstitutional laws passed by congress. Hence, the signing statement.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    We have word from multiple sources in the military, guys in his unit that say he called them after he deserted & told them he did so.
    Do you have a link to your source claiming that Bergdahl contacted his unit after he allegedly deserted? Seems kind of strange the military would give him a promotion if they knew for sure he had deserted.
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