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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And why was it that Bush held a cabinet meeting on the invasion of Iraq ten days after he first took office in 2001? And why was it that part of the meeting concerned the oil that Iraq had?

    And why was it that Bush's former biographer stated that Bush told him that he wanted to be a war president, because war presidents are always more popular?

    And who was it that elected Bush? Twice?
    So let me guess....it's all Bush's fault?
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    Re: Free flow of oil in a world market

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Just because people think the market 'calls for it' doesn't make it smart. Not at all. That's the stuff of which gluts are made.
    Actually gluts are made when govt run production requires production at higher levels than consumption. Ask the USSR how that turned out.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And if you cannot prove that Bergdahl renounced his citizenship but are just making it up...what does that make you?

    PROVE that Bergdahl renounced his citizenship!
    I notice that you've walked away from this with tail tucked.

    Nice.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    By saying you're the ones sounding desperate?

    Oh and...was I complaining? Nope, don't think so.
    I'm asking you to find one instance where I defend Bergdahl.
    Sure. But first I want you to find a post of me saying that I hate America and want her to die in nuclear annihilation. Otherwise, you're wrong and I'm offended at how badly you've misrepresented me.






    see? I can play the strawman game too.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So let me guess....it's all Bush's fault?
    The invasion of Iraq? Yes, it was - that was his plan all along, even before he got elected the first time. He wanted to do what daddy wouldn't do.

    I know that sounds crude...but it's true. And so many of us - myself included at the time - got sucked into believing him.
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    Re: Free flow of oil in a world market

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Actually gluts are made when govt run production requires production at higher levels than consumption. Ask the USSR how that turned out.
    FYI, gluts normally have nothing to do with government. Try looking up gluts that have occurred in the past and see how much governments didn't have to do with them. Gluts are those situations when supply is much greater than demand, and occur when there is significant overproduction or significant decrease in demand. Most gluts are minor in the macroeconomic view (though some are certainly not - see the real estate gluts caused by the "Great Depression" and the "Great Recession") and there's many different causes of overproduction or decrease in demand, and sometimes those are indeed the fault of the government...but more often than not, it's simply a case of overproduction.

    In the case of oil, however, a glut due to overproduction would not be a good thing at all. I despise Big Oil, but if we allow that to happen which would cause the price of oil to nosedive even temporarily, that kind of macroeconomic shock can cause significant instability in the market...and not the good kind of instability.

    And FYI, we aren't the USSR. I know that comes as a shock to you....
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I notice that you've walked away from this with tail tucked.

    Nice.
    Um, did you show where he renounced his citizenship? Maybe you did, and I could well have missed it. I know this might sound strange, but I do have a life away from this forum. I was up to 0345 this morning cranking out a research paper. It wasn't fun.

    But anyway, did you show where he renounced his citizenship?
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    FYI, gluts normally have nothing to do with government. Try looking up gluts that have occurred in the past and see how much governments didn't have to do with them. Gluts are those situations when supply is much greater than demand, and occur when there is significant overproduction or significant decrease in demand. Most gluts are minor in the macroeconomic view (though some are certainly not - see the real estate gluts caused by the "Great Depression" and the "Great Recession") and there's many different causes of overproduction or decrease in demand, and sometimes those are indeed the fault of the government...but more often than not, it's simply a case of overproduction.

    In the case of oil, however, a glut due to overproduction would not be a good thing at all. I despise Big Oil, but if we allow that to happen which would cause the price of oil to nosedive even temporarily, that kind of macroeconomic shock can cause significant instability in the market...and not the good kind of instability.

    And FYI, we aren't the USSR. I know that comes as a shock to you....
    You're wrong.....AGAIN.

    It might help if you stopped reading Keynes, or not.

    Consumers as a share of GNP rose steadily from 1920 to 1930.

    The idea that the Great Depression was caused by over production or even Stock market speculation doesn't wash with the fact that there was a explosion of consumer activity and Market participation from 1920 to 1930.

    American industry exploded during the twenties with electric utilities, radios and automobiles.

    The American middle-class also grew at a unprecedented rate as more and more people rose out of poverty.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You're wrong.....AGAIN.

    It might help if you stopped reading Keynes, or not.

    Consumers as a share of GNP rose steadily from 1920 to 1930.

    The idea that the Great Depression was caused by over production or even Stock market speculation doesn't wash with the fact that there was a explosion of consumer activity and Market participation from 1920 to 1930.

    American industry exploded during the twenties with electric utilities, radios and automobiles.

    The American middle-class also grew at a unprecedented rate as more and more people rose out of poverty.
    Try READING what I wrote. I did NOT say that a glut caused the Great Depression - I said that the Great Depression (and the Great Recession) caused a glut in real estate. Do you see the difference? You got it bass-ackwards. Do you see the mistake you made?
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Obama's now trying to blame Hagel for all of this mess.

    Thats so Him.

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