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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What they should see is the only force in world history that has spent out treasure, and spilled our blood to give them the opportunity to be free, and govern themselves...yeah, you're right, we are evil....
    Guy, if you saw a bunch of foreign soldiers on your soil telling you what you oughta be doing, and what they're telling you to do is completely different from what you've done for literally thousands of years, what will you do? Meekly do what you're being told? Or will you instead take up arms and get those foreigners off your soil because they don't belong there?
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Um, we already are. We're pumping out more oil than ever before, thanks to fracking (and the swarms of (relatively minor) earthquakes that come with it).

    Thing is, the way the global oil markets are structured, NONE - repeat, NONE - of that oil we're pumping out is reserved for American use. ALL of it is considered 'fungible' - it's put on the global market, and so we bid on and buy what's cheapest on the market, without any concern of where it came from.

    Which is why "drill baby drill" was so silly - it Does Not Matter how much we drill, because it's ALL on the global market, and because of this, we will never, ever (as long as the wealthiest industry in human history survives) be "energy independent" as long as we depend on oil.

    Never. It's flatly impossible, because we have to buy from the global market, and not from the oil we're drilling on our own land...even though we're currently producing more oil than we're using.
    Don't believe that statement is accurate....

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nonsense.

    The Iraq resolution was bi-partisan and Democrats going back to 1998 agreed Saddam had WMD and something needed to be done about it.

    Keep the Bush derangement syndrome in the Partisan section where it belongs.
    And before we invaded, we searched and searched and searched for those WMD's...and found none. But we invaded anyway, which - according to the British - Bush was intent on doing ANYWAY. Sure, after the invasion we found a few chemical weapons...but we did NOT find ANY evidence of the NUKES which were Bush's biggest concern...

    ...and were apparently Bush's ONLY concern since he has since stated himself that we found NO weapons of mass destruction.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And before we invaded, we searched and searched and searched for those WMD's...and found none. But we invaded anyway, which - according to the British - Bush was intent on doing ANYWAY. Sure, after the invasion we found a few chemical weapons...but we did NOT find ANY evidence of the NUKES which were Bush's biggest concern...

    ...and were apparently Bush's ONLY concern since he has since stated himself that we found NO weapons of mass destruction.
    The decision for war preceded the WMD issue, which was simply the lowest common denominator around which support for the war could be built. That does not mean, however, that the administration did not honestly believe there were WMD. The most that can be said is that they were predisposed to believe, and were therefore less rigorous than they should have been in testing the evidence.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Guy, if you saw a bunch of foreign soldiers on your soil telling you what you oughta be doing, and what they're telling you to do is completely different from what you've done for literally thousands of years, what will you do? Meekly do what you're being told? Or will you instead take up arms and get those foreigners off your soil because they don't belong there?
    Well "Guy", if you're willing to ignore centuries of radical Islamic marching toward caliphate, to ignore the Koran calling for the death of infidels, and the despotism of Islamic rule toward the oppression of their own people then your perception is misguided and your loyalty misplaced.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    i think this was just the tip of the iceberg. Some highlights:
    The author is taking liberties with facts and adding his own dramatic points of view. He was 'immersed in the fog of war' himself.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And before we invaded, we searched and searched and searched for those WMD's...and found none. But we invaded anyway, which - according to the British - Bush was intent on doing ANYWAY. Sure, after the invasion we found a few chemical weapons...but we did NOT find ANY evidence of the NUKES which were Bush's biggest concern...

    ...and were apparently Bush's ONLY concern since he has since stated himself that we found NO weapons of mass destruction.
    That link means nothing and it seems you never read it. No WMD were found post invaasion. What does that mean to you?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Guy, if you saw a bunch of foreign soldiers on your soil telling you what you oughta be doing, and what they're telling you to do is completely different from what you've done for literally thousands of years, what will you do? Meekly do what you're being told? Or will you instead take up arms and get those foreigners off your soil because they don't belong there?
    Foreign soldiers called Al Qaeda were already on Afghan soil and being harbored by the Taliban. The Taliban were given ample opportunity to release these terrorists into American custody but chose not to.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The decision for war preceded the WMD issue, which was simply the lowest common denominator around which support for the war could be built. That does not mean, however, that the administration did not honestly believe there were WMD. The most that can be said is that they were predisposed to believe, and were therefore less rigorous than they should have been in testing the evidence.
    Saddam Hussein did little to discourage the idea that he had WMD because it gave him more power and prestige within the Arab world and could also be used as a threat against any invading force. That anyone would want a genocidal madman like Saddam to remain in power says a great deal about how far leftists will go to demonstrate their deep-rooted feelings of anti Americanism.

    Of course every world leader was 'predisposed to believe' he had WMD, as the record clearly indicates.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Don't believe that statement is accurate....
    Actually, it IS accurate - we are currently a net oil exporter. And have our oil prices fallen as a result?

    No.

    I rest my case.
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