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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Something Bergdahl recounted in an e-mail to his parents. The entire unit was just a bunch of undisciplined incompetent yahoos. Something made clear years ago by the Pentagon. Perhaps these men are afraid of what else his might say.
    Once again smearing the troops.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Once again smearing the troops.
    I'm just pointing out the facts.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm just pointing out the facts.
    No, you are not. There is no evidence to support your smear.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

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    I'm just pointing out the facts.
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    3) The motives of Bergdahl’s fellow infantry are suspect

    Perhaps the single biggest reason the White House spin on the Bergdahl trade didn’t hold up was because almost immediately people who knew him in Afghanistan started talking about what they knew about his disappearance. While these details had been kept under wraps via a non-disclosure agreement, the rush to paint him as a homecoming hero was too much for many of them. Whether they viewed the non-disclosure agreement as no longer operationally important, or because they hadn’t signed one to begin with, some even started appearing on national news to give their side of the story.
    The first attempt to fight this was to do something very unusual — talk about a public relations firm that had helped coordinate such appearances. Now, the fact of the matter is that public relations firms coordinate pretty much everything you see on television. But usually you don’t hear about it. Did the New York Times report, when it covered birth control activist Sandra Fluke, that she was represented by the firm of former White House communications director Anita Dunn? Of course not. How much coverage was given the fact that Texas State Senator Wendy Davis’ late-term abortion filibuster was a public relations campaign? I think I saw one blog item.
    What about the award-winning public relations campaign Planned Parenthood planned against the Komen Foundation? Not only were Planned Parenthood’s public relations firms not mentioned in stories about the campaign, the media actually was blatantly one-sided in which group it supported and which group it condemned in the contest between a breast health charity and the country’s largest abortion provider.
    I could go on. But only in this case did we learn about this fact behind most major news stories. That attempt to discredit soldiers didn’t work, though, so White House aides told NBC’s Chuck Todd that they didn’t expect soldiers to “swift boat” Bergdahl. That was a reference to what happened when John Kerry ran for president by emphasizing his military service. The only problem was that those “swift boat” veterans who served with him had a different view. Democrats believed these attacks on John Kerry were unfair. An Obama administration official tweeted out his thoughts about the matter this week:
    Just … no. Speculating that the men who did not desert were “psychopaths” is just idiotic. Particularly since even if Bergdahl had problems with soldiers or leadership, that wouldn’t make him even remotely unique in the Army. What did make his situation unique was that he didn’t work through approved channels for resolving those issues without putting people in danger.
    And now the New York Times is trying to make the claim that Bergdahl’s unit was “as much to blame” for his disappearance as he was. Sigh.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No, you are not. There is no evidence to support your smear.
    Already posted it and there's an AR 15-6 which confirms it.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

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    Already posted it and there's an AR 15-6 which confirms it.
    It doesn't confirm anything.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It doesn't confirm anything.
    They're facts which have been widely known for years, but people like you wish to bury in a mad attempt to go after the President.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

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    They're facts which have been widely known for years, but people like you wish to bury in a mad attempt to go after the President.
    On the contrary, I think the POTUS is nearly irrelevant to this issue. I don't care about that aspect of the question. All the politicization of the question has come from the WH and its minions.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

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    The United States has a very long history of prisoner exchanges. The rest of your post doesn't deserve commenting on.
    Yeah, but was a Muslim in the White House?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Right. So let's drill here. Drill now. And leave the Middle East. Agreed?
    Um, we already are. We're pumping out more oil than ever before, thanks to fracking (and the swarms of (relatively minor) earthquakes that come with it).

    Thing is, the way the global oil markets are structured, NONE - repeat, NONE - of that oil we're pumping out is reserved for American use. ALL of it is considered 'fungible' - it's put on the global market, and so we bid on and buy what's cheapest on the market, without any concern of where it came from.

    Which is why "drill baby drill" was so silly - it Does Not Matter how much we drill, because it's ALL on the global market, and because of this, we will never, ever (as long as the wealthiest industry in human history survives) be "energy independent" as long as we depend on oil.

    Never. It's flatly impossible, because we have to buy from the global market, and not from the oil we're drilling on our own land...even though we're currently producing more oil than we're using.
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