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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    I agree with what you've said, but the fact is the Afghanistan Taliban were never designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization under either the Obama or W. Bush administrations' State Department.
    True. I agree. A title doesn't matter as much as the actions of a person or a group, as you obviously agree.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    I thought we were going to try or release all the Guantanamo Bay prisoners a few years ago. 161 left.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    there are 1000's of people just like these 5 individuals who are killing. 5 more makes NO difference!! again 5 more makes NO difference!!

    NONE!!!!!!!

    this person will be back with his family and friends, those who love and care about him.

    what's your care? politics?
    Thsi deal puts every American at risk to be taken hostage..

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Going to withhold coming to my final initial judgement on this until a bit more information, but my gut is very uncomfortable with this. I understand the emotional argument of this guys family and such that's been placed in this thread. Emotional arguments as a matter of foreign and defense policy is idiotic and a poor foundation to work from.

    I will say that initially this looks like a CLEAR breach of the law from the President. You don't get to sign a law and simultaneously sign a signing statement that says you disagree the laws constiutional and will ignore it. That absolutely should be persued, even if it's simply a manner of the SCOTUS ruling in on the constitutionality of the reporting requirement.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    I was listening to a radio commentary while driving a couple of hours ago and the talk show host--I didn't catch his name--said the jury was out on whether Bergdahl had deserted and we should be very careful not to impune the name of a uniformed member of the armed services without knowing about that for sure.

    But some 50 of our soldiers were killed when out looking for Bergdahl--the level of violence escalated greatly in the months following his capture. His father mentioned he was more comfortable talking in Pashto than in English, but that could be lack of contact with any English speakers for the past five years. The five guys traded for his release were top Taliban leaders and had been classified extremely dangerous.

    And yes, that certainly would appear to be encouragement for Islamic terrorists to look for more people to kidnap and hold for ransom.

    And I can't shake the feeling too that Obama was almost desperate for something--ANYTHING--to get the VA and Benghazi scandals off the front pages. He had tried almost everything in his arsenal without success. But Bergdahl's release accomplished that.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Mr Unilateral with his pen bypassed Congress in undertaking the swap. He's a total ****up as President, and making it worse everyday. Laws mean nothing to him personally. No doubt his crooked attorney general told him it was okay.

    Bergdahl release arrangement could threaten the safety of Americans, Republicans say - The Washington Post
    The statute in the law might be unconstitutional and violates the separation of powers.

    Barack Obama: Statement on Signing the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012

    If it goes to the SCOTUS I think they'll side with Obama on this one.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I was listening to a radio commentary while driving a couple of hours ago and the talk show host--I didn't catch his name--said the jury was out on whether Bergdahl had deserted and we should be very careful not to impune the name of a uniformed member of the armed services without knowing about that for sure.

    But some 50 of our soldiers were killed when out looking for Bergdahl--the level of violence escalated greatly in the months following his capture. His father mentioned he was more comfortable talking in Pashto than in English, but that could be lack of contact with any English speakers for the past five years. The five guys traded for his release were top Taliban leaders and had been classified extremely dangerous.

    And yes, that certainly would appear to be encouragement for Islamic terrorists to look for more people to kidnap and hold for ransom.

    And I can't shake the feeling too that Obama was almost desperate for something--ANYTHING--to get the VA and Benghazi scandals off the front pages. He had tried almost everything in his arsenal without success. But Bergdahl's release accomplished that.
    The news is reporting that only six soldiers were killed, not fifty......

    "....At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for Bergdahl, and many soldiers in his platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.....

    On August 18, 2009, Staff Sgt. Clayton Bowen and Pfc. Morris Walker were killed by an IED in the search for Bergdahl. Staff Sgt. Kurt Curtiss was killed on August 26; 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews and Pfc. Matthew Michael Martinek were killed after being attacked in Yahya Khail District on September 4; Staff Sgt. Michael Murphrey was killed September 5 by an IED at the Forward Operating Base, Sharana .......read...."
    Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero - CNN.com


    Do you have a link to your claim below?
    "His father mentioned he was more comfortable talking in Pashto than in English, but that could be lack of contact with any English speakers for the past five years."

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Thsi deal puts every American at risk to be taken hostage..
    But....but....but, I thought we were ALREADY at risk to be taken hostage by them bad, bad and Oh So Dangerous terrists....?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    But....but....but, I thought we were ALREADY at risk to be taken hostage by them bad, bad and Oh So Dangerous terrists....?
    it increased the odds that our servicemen will taken hostage...

    this guy was a deserter.. we should have left him.. 6 brave gave their lives looking for this "jihadist from within"

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