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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I was listening to a radio commentary while driving a couple of hours ago and the talk show host--I didn't catch his name--said the jury was out on whether Bergdahl had deserted and we should be very careful not to impune the name of a uniformed member of the armed services without knowing about that for sure.

    But some 50 of our soldiers were killed when out looking for Bergdahl--the level of violence escalated greatly in the months following his capture. His father mentioned he was more comfortable talking in Pashto than in English, but that could be lack of contact with any English speakers for the past five years. The five guys traded for his release were top Taliban leaders and had been classified extremely dangerous.

    And yes, that certainly would appear to be encouragement for Islamic terrorists to look for more people to kidnap and hold for ransom.

    And I can't shake the feeling too that Obama was almost desperate for something--ANYTHING--to get the VA and Benghazi scandals off the front pages. He had tried almost everything in his arsenal without success. But Bergdahl's release accomplished that.
    Another poster a little loose and fancy free with facts.... hey, why let a few facts get in the way of a good argument....

    The number is 6, not 50 and even that claim is dubious...

    Pentagon to review claims US soldiers killed during search for Bergdahl | Fox News

    I do agree that Obama would like to do a head fake away from the one legitimate scandal of his administration. On the other hand, no point in head faking away from the Republican circus of creating scandals and not letting go of them. The Cons are just shooting themselves in the foot with those practices... might as well let them have center stage as headliners at the comedy club.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But Al Qaeda is hiding in Pakistan now and they too have refused to turn the terrorists over. And yet, we aren't fighting the Pakistanis so why are we still fighting the Taliban?
    The Taliban are an easier enemy.... but, they are, as you said, a political entity rather than a terrorist group.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Another poster a little loose and fancy free with facts.... hey, why let a few facts get in the way of a good argument....

    The number is 6, not 50 and even that claim is dubious...

    Pentagon to review claims US soldiers killed during search for Bergdahl | Fox News

    I do agree that Obama would like to do a head fake away from the one legitimate scandal of his administration. On the other hand, no point in head faking away from the Republican circus of creating scandals and not letting go of them. The Cons are just shooting themselves in the foot with those practices... might as well let them have center stage as headliners at the comedy club.
    If you had continued to read the thread you would see that I concurred with the six number. You would also see that I was reporting what I heard on the radio and was not playing "loose and fancy free" with the facts. The facts remain that we don't know what Bergdahl's status was or is as I also subsequently posted. Nor did I make it a partisan issue as your post does. It seems just as many Democrats are asking the same questions as the Republicans are on this one. But don't let facts get in the way of making something partisan that shouldn't be.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I was listening to a radio commentary while driving a couple of hours ago and the talk show host--I didn't catch his name--said the jury was out on whether Bergdahl had deserted and we should be very careful not to impune the name of a uniformed member of the armed services without knowing about that for sure.

    But some 50 of our soldiers were killed when out looking for Bergdahl--
    the level of violence escalated greatly in the months following his capture. His father mentioned he was more comfortable talking in Pashto than in English, but that could be lack of contact with any English speakers for the past five years. The five guys traded for his release were top Taliban leaders and had been classified extremely dangerous.







    And yes, that certainly would appear to be encouragement for Islamic terrorists to look for more people to kidnap and hold for ransom.

    And I can't shake the feeling too that Obama was almost desperate for something--ANYTHING--to get the VA and Benghazi scandals off the front pages. He had tried almost everything in his arsenal without success. But Bergdahl's release accomplished that.



    Until you post a link to something that supports this statement I'm going to ignore it.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    On a side-note, the soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon sound like a bunch of unprofessional right-wing jerks. Maybe that's why they're collaborating with Republican strategists to tar and feather Bergdahl before his feet touch American soil.

    I wonder what really went on in that platoon. I hear there was a breakdown in the chain of command.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    On a side-note, the soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon sound like a bunch of unprofessional right-wing jerks. Maybe that's why they're collaborating with Republican strategists to tar and feather Bergdahl before his feet touch American soil.

    I wonder what really went on in that platoon. I hear there was a breakdown in the chain of command.
    "Unprofessional right-wing jerks"?

    They're collaborating with Republican strategists? Of course you have a link to back that up.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    "Unprofessional right-wing jerks"?

    They're collaborating with Republican strategists? Of course you have a link to back that up.
    BBC News - The 'Republican strategist' behind the Bergdahl story

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    former George W Bush administration official and Fox News commentator Richard Grenell.

    Buzzfeed's Rosie Gray and Kate Nocera discovered that one of the soldiers quoted by the Times and others, Cody Full, had taken to Twitter to thank Mr Grenell yesterday for "helping get our platoon's story out" in a tweet.

    Continue reading the main story

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    Mr Grenell can be relied on to take the view that anything that might hurt President Barack Obama is good enough for him”
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    They called Mr Grenell's public relations agency, Capitol Media Partners, where his partner, Brad Chase, confirmed his involvement:

    "Obviously Ric is a well-known Republican and these guys found him on Twitter and reached out asking for help in getting their story out," Chase said. "Ric obviously saw that this is something that needed to be told and came to me and others in our firm, and I and some of the others determined that this was a story that we wanted to work on."

    Mr Chase said they offered their services free of charge and the New York Times characterisation of them as "Republican strategists" was "100% factually inaccurate", as Mr Chase was not a Republican.


    OMG. How desperate are you?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Whether or not he's officially a Republican, he is in the employ of the Republicans. Ergo, a Republican strategist.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Whether or not he's officially a Republican, he is in the employ of the Republicans. Ergo, a Republican strategist.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this partisanship.

    You apparently didn't even read the article.

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