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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Which change the calculus of not negotiating with terrorists because that encourages them..... how?

    That might be enough to narrowly avoid a conviction in a court of law (or it might not, negotiating through someone is still negotiating), but it changes the real-world math not at all.
    It is a risk but considering that the other options had far worse chances of succeeding, it is a dice roll.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Where have you gotten that information? All I've seen mentioned is a Taliban delegation. One of the prisoners swapped had connections with the Haqqani network but all 5 were pretty much high ranking positions in the Taliban organizaiton.
    Check out where he was captured and where he was being held. That's Haqqanni territory.

    Now, Haqqani officially fall under the Taliban, so they do what the TB tell them (generally. ish.), but they are designated a terrorist organization while the ole TB are not, and they were the ones holding him.


    apparently it was even a point of worry

    ...U.S. officials had said this year that one route to getting Bergdahl back was through Qatari officials, who had been talking to the Taliban. But Bergdahl was believed to be held by operatives from the Haqqani network, an insurgent force affiliated with the Taliban and al Qaeda, and it was not clear whether Haqqani operatives would abide by any agreement among the United States, Qatar and the Taliban.
    An Afghan Taliban commander, not authorized to speak to the media, confirmed to CNN that Bergdahl was captured by the Afghan Taliban with links to the Haqqani network in Pakistan. Over the years, the captive was transferred back and forth between Afghanistan and Pakistan....

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    It is a risk but considering that the other options had far worse chances of succeeding, it is a dice roll.
    The other options being that we have now established an exchange ratio that will appeal to every single jihadist (or other illegal) organization who has members that we have sitting in a prison?

    We negotiated with terrorists, and we gave them a huge win. We are going to regret teaching them that.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The other options being that we have now established an exchange ratio that will appeal to every single jihadist (or other illegal) organization who has members that we have sitting in a prison?

    We negotiated with terrorists, and we gave them a huge win. We are going to regret teaching them that.
    And what exactly were we doing with these five prisioners? Were they classified as criminals? P.o.ws?

    What exactly was the status of these five Taliban members and what souls have been their fate?
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Hopefully we'll prosecute this rat for what he is.

    Obama wanted a distraction from the VA mess, and he accidentally rescued Benedict Arnold.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    The WH has issued an apology. Gosh. I guess its all ok then, eh?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Obama signed an Omnibus defense budget bill. Do know what that is, Fenton?

    Omnibus bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    As a courtesy to congress, all presidents since James Monroe have used signing statements instead of vetoing an entire bill because of one paragraph and negating all the hard work that congress put into the rest of the bill. The president writes a signing statement on why a statute or paragraph in the law is unconstitutional and how or if he intends to execute the law to help make it constitutional and if it can't be then he has the authority to ignore it if he needs to because he took an oath to faithfully uphold the constitution. When in doubt about a law its always best to side with the Constitution.
    Sorry, but no one buys the " signing statement " mitigation.

    Obama just "apologized" to top ranking Committee members for not informing them.

    I'm curious as to why he felt they needed a apology.

    He didn't do anything wrong, did he ?

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what exactly were we doing with these five prisioners? Were they classified as criminals? P.o.ws?

    What exactly was the status of these five Taliban members and what souls have been their fate?
    Keeping them from their almost guaranteed recidivism.

    Keeping them from killing more Americans soldiers, Americam people , etc.

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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Constitutions says the president has to execute the laws. Failing to do so is illegal. By your logic, do you still consider Bush a war criminal?
    What a dumb question, she's a Bush hater. Of course she thinks he's a war criminal, as a minimum.
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    Re: Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I find it funny you are still defending him even after the White House has already admitted it was wrong.
    Perhaps it was just a courtesy...aka...greasing a squeaky wheel. lol

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