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US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

So you are so buried with following the party line and supporting your guy, you will throw a bunch of other soldiers under the bus, suggesting they are liars. Class act. So much easier to take that route than to actually question the government… :roll:

Yeah, since when would I ever depend upon my twenty years of service in the Navy, much of which was dealing directly with legal matters, including a couple years as an assistant legal officer on board the USS Camden?
 
Your love for the president is the reason for your position.
And your hatred for the President is the reason for your position .
 
Yeah, who the heck needs to abide by the "innocent till proven guilty" tradition of American justice? Somebody said he did it, so he MUST be guilty, huh?

Has anyone come forward, yet, to suggest that Bergdahl didn't desert his unit?

Funny how innocent until proven guilty is so important, now.

Where were the Libbos when American troops were falsely accused of murdering Iraqi civilians? They had those guys convicted, before they ever left theater. And the guys who pissed on those dead Tals? Weren't no need for a court, then! Y'all acted like they committed a capital crime.

Bergdahl took an oath and wore my uniform. He was representing me and I demand that he face justice for his crime.
 
most of the criticism has not been constructive.

Thats the beauty of free speech and debate. You can criticize those who criticize others. That is what makes America great. Although there have been many recent cases where free speech is questionably being made illegal, for the most part, you are free to criticize any idea you feel is wrong. Now you may not like being criticized, as most people dont, but there never should be a law against someone being offended. The problem is not with the people who are trying to offend, but with the people that take criticism poorly. If you don't like what someone is saying, you can simply stop listening if it bothers you that much.

I love it when Mike Tyson said: "I'm talking to you the way I want to talk to you. If you have a problem, turn off your station." Of course I think at times Mike was complete bonkers, he is absolutely correct. He knew the interviewer was poking him and the interviewer got exactly what he wanted, a reaction. If you don't like the reaction, then walk away.
 
Read Logan Beirne's "Blood of Tyrants, George Washington and the forging of the presidency"…. he has all the references you'll need.



Yeah, the one where the current administration has hid documents and had a sec. of state that gave us that classic line about 'what does it matter'… If the lives of 4 american's didn't matter to them then, why does the life of this one, that is most likely a deserter, matter enough to release 5 killers?

I will look up that book.

But your reference to Benghazi...*yawn*. Anyone with eyes to see knows that that's just another Whitewater witch-hunt...especially since the GOP knows that if Hillary runs, they've got no chance in heck short of assassination to stop her from winning the presidency, and probably in a landslide. You really should apply the same level of cynicism to the Right as you do to the Left.
 
Yeah, since when would I ever depend upon my twenty years of service in the Navy, much of which was dealing directly with legal matters, including a couple years as an assistant legal officer on board the USS Camden?

Ah the appeal to authority fallacy. Good one.

Your service has ZIP to do with this situation. Why don't you just admit you would take the word of the President over that of the soldiers that were there? Be consistent, stand up for what you believe in, instead of all the dodges and shifting.

Anyone with eyes to see knows that that's just another Whitewater witch-hunt.


Again, rather than back up your beliefs, you just keep doing your left-wing masters proud by repeating the talking points they have given you. LOL.


You really should apply the same level of cynicism to the Right as you do to the Left.

I do. They are as packed full of morons as your side is.
 
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Congressman Buck McKeon.

I'm sure even your father would hold Buck in high esteem. What vet doesn't ?

I'm sure Buck holds your father in high esteem.
Strange you would bring my Father up to make your point, as he died exactly two years ago in about a half hour.
Since those on your side question everything I say, I'd be glad to send you the memo.

McKeon also has a committee dancing on the Benghazi graves.
My Father would be sickened with the way the GOP has divided this Nation overseas .
 
And your hatred for the President is the reason for your position .

No, I would call Bergdahl a deserter, no matter who was president.
 
the white house says that the situation required immediate action because there were concerns over the health of the captive american soldier.

if we had waited 30 days, something could have gone wrong and the soldier could have died.

you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive? He put himself in that situation. What makes him so special? Sorry, but I don't like any of this. Something is not adding up.

And what if he was NOT a captive but took those 5 years to learn what he needed to learn? Again, sorry, but my trust level is wayyyyyyy down.
 
No, I would call Bergdahl a deserter, no matter who was president.

Yeah, it is pretty clear that Bergdahl was a deserter and several soldiers died looking for him. He doesn't deserve a heroes welcome. He needs to be brought up on charges.
 
you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive?

Held captive? Hell, they are dying waiting to get in to be seen at the VA! Suddenly this administration cares about the health of our military members?
 
you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive? He put himself in that situation. What makes him so special? Sorry, but I don't like any of this. Something is not adding up.

And what if he was NOT a captive but took those 5 years to learn what he needed to learn? Again, sorry, but my trust level is wayyyyyyy down.

extordinary claims require extraordinary evidence in order to proove.
 
Like I keep saying - assume innocence until guilt is proven in a court of law.

Those sitting on a Summary or General Court Martial should assume innocence. But the procedures leading up to the court martial don't work that way does it ?

Unlike the how the civil system works, the accused in a military judicial system doesn't sit in a brig or stockaded with those already convicted and serving their sentences. They are still treated as soldiers, Marines or sailors until convicted.
 
Has anyone come forward, yet, to suggest that Bergdahl didn't desert his unit?

Funny how innocent until proven guilty is so important, now.

Where were the Libbos when American troops were falsely accused of murdering Iraqi civilians? They had those guys convicted, before they ever left theater. And the guys who pissed on those dead Tals? Weren't no need for a court, then! Y'all acted like they committed a capital crime.

Bergdahl took an oath and wore my uniform. He was representing me and I demand that he face justice for his crime.

It was treated as if it were a capital crime. And it was the Obama White House who ordered a court martial.
 
Strange you would bring my Father up to make your point, as he died exactly two years ago in about a half hour.
Since those on your side question everything I say, I'd be glad to send you the memo.

McKeon also has a committee dancing on the Benghazi graves.
My Father would be sickened with the way the GOP has divided this Nation overseas .

Who divided the nation ?
 
Those sitting on a Summary or General Court Martial should assume innocence. But the procedures leading up to the court martial don't work that way does it ?

Unlike the how the civil system works, the accused in a military judicial system doesn't sit in a brig or stockaded with those already convicted and serving their sentences. They are still treated as soldiers, Marines or sailors until convicted.

But you know as well as I do that while most of us would be happy seeing him in the stockade while he waits on trial, there's that vicious court of public opinion. And you know as well as I do that sometimes, it's better to let things go.

Don't get me wrong - if they have enough evidence of desertion, then he should be tried, absolutely! For instance, I'm all for Bradley Manning spending his (now her) entire sentence in jail. He meant to do the right thing...but hurt American standing around the world instead, and almost certainly got more than a few people killed.

But if the Army's case against this POW is not airtight, they know how the court of public opinion would play out...and how it might be better for all concerned to just let it go.
 
So...this guy deserted, caused the death of some soldiers that went looking for him, and he gets traded (illegally) for 5 taliban members and is treated to a parade when he gets home. Is that the crux of it?
 
Over 200 of the chain of command have already been purged by the Obama administration.


I forgot about that. Yes. They were, weren't they?

BTW...I was FOR Obama. Twice. And look at me now. Bet there are many just like me.
 
But you know as well as I do that while most of us would be happy seeing him in the stockade while he waits on trial, there's that vicious court of public opinion. And you know as well as I do that sometimes, it's better to let things go.

Don't get me wrong - if they have enough evidence of desertion, then he should be tried, absolutely! For instance, I'm all for Bradley Manning spending his (now her) entire sentence in jail. He meant to do the right thing...but hurt American standing around the world instead, and almost certainly got more than a few people killed.

But if the Army's case against this POW is not airtight, they know how the court of public opinion would play out...and how it might be better for all concerned to just let it go.

Peronally speaking..I don't want to let it go. No more than I would have "let go" some tnt being bought to put in a Ryder truck...or middle easterners taking flying lessons, for example. Letting it go means whatever is going on, will continue to go on until something bad happens.
 
Ah the appeal to authority fallacy. Good one.

Your service has ZIP to do with this situation. Why don't you just admit you would take the word of the President over that of the soldiers that were there? Be consistent, stand up for what you believe in, instead of all the dodges and shifting.



Again, rather than back up your beliefs, you just keep doing your left-wing masters proud by repeating the talking points they have given you. LOL. [/FONT][/COLOR]



I do. They are as packed full of morons as your side is.

Ah. And you are SO sure that my judgment cannot possibly be based upon my own professional experience. Why are you sure? Because my opinion is not in line with your own...therefore I must somehow be wrong, I guess....
 
Has anyone come forward, yet, to suggest that Bergdahl didn't desert his unit?

Funny how innocent until proven guilty is so important, now.

Where were the Libbos when American troops were falsely accused of murdering Iraqi civilians? They had those guys convicted, before they ever left theater. And the guys who pissed on those dead Tals? Weren't no need for a court, then! Y'all acted like they committed a capital crime.

Bergdahl took an oath and wore my uniform. He was representing me and I demand that he face justice for his crime.

So...you believe in guilty until proven innocent?
 
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