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US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

Obama name wasn't even brought up until members of Congress brought up that Obama broke the law. It wasn't I who accused Obama of breaking the law it was Congress. I didn't even know about this law until yesterday afternoon. So don't be making **** up.

Which Congressional members, the usual lying Republicans you parrot?
Prove it or you're the one once again making **** up, as you would say .
 
You mean the same Benghazi BS that's been through eight investigations where the right wing STILL couldn't come up with anything that could stick?

Do you remember Whitewater? Benghazi's the same thing - just another baseless excuse for political witch-hunting, grandstanding, and fund-raising.


Yeah that's the one.....here is some good info that will be coming out. Also I would recommend any of the Other threads up where I added more and even the New Yorker changed that perception a long time ago. Just sayin. ;)


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...usive-hillary-clinton-s-benghazi-chapter.html
 
Hey Glen.

This is the military judicial system not the civilian judicial system.

Be it "Shoals and Rocks" or the UCMJ and we all know how fare the UCMJ is when they added CATCH-22 Article 134, don't we ?
Those who serve and stand post are held to higher standards than those we protect.

FYI, if it goes above the NJP level, the rules of evidence do apply.
 
Yeah.....that's why I threw that up there. This guys walks off and deserts his post. Leaving others open to attack. Gets captured.....then gets promoted not once. But twice.
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Is this what Obama expects of those who serve in the military today. You don't like the war, you quit by deserting and you keep being paid and promoted. ****ing unbelievable.

Todays U.S. military isn't the same military of six years ago.

As Codolizza Rice pointed out, Obama is changing the purpose and culture of the U.S. military.

If Obama hadn't purged so many warriors from the U.S. Officers Corps, I'm pretty sure this deserter would have already had charges of desertion brought up, his Taliban beard would have been forcibly shaved off and he would be sitting in the stockade waiting for his General Court Martial while tens of thousand of soldier volunteering to be part of the firing squad.
 
they never, ever tell a lie about people they don't like, do they?

So you are so buried with following the party line and supporting your guy, you will throw a bunch of other soldiers under the bus, suggesting they are liars. Class act. So much easier to take that route than to actually question the government… :roll:
 
Is this what Obama expects of those who serve in the military today. You don't like the war, you quit by deserting and you keep being paid and promoted. ****ing unbelievable.

Todays U.S. military isn't the same military of six years ago.

As Codolizza Rice pointed out, Obama is changing the purpose and culture of the U.S. military.

If Obama hadn't purged so many warriors from the U.S. Officers Corps, I'm pretty sure this deserter would have already had charges of desertion brought up, his Taliban beard would have been forcibly shaved off and he would be sitting in the stockade waiting for his General Court Martial while tens of thousand of soldier volunteering to be part of the firing squad.


Well, I did wonder why the wait times kept getting longer at the VA each year he has been President.....especially after all the talk he did about helping Vets and keeping tabs on the targeting of Vets.

What bothers me here.....there is no way Qatar can assure us these guys wont go back after our people. Especially with how long they have been locked up.

Human nature will be telling them.....time for some payback.
 
as for the political angle of it, yes, i absolutely believe that you are making it political, and would not be doing so under a President Romney. i find it difficult to control my anger about this, so i will be easing back my participation in this thread.

LOL. So much BS. It wouldn't matter to me WHO is president. For any president that signs something into law, then ignores it, should be looked at. Any soldier that it seems hated his country and deserted his duty, should be looked at further. What else might have gone into a deal to release 5 murderers that were marked as 'high risk' of them going back to their old ways and killing Americans, should probably be looked at a bit further and deeper. You are miserably failing with your lame attempt to push politics into someplace it does not exist, and in the process really showing a blind partisanship.

While partisanship is tearing things apart in this country, it is those that act like you are, that are the biggest problem. "just feel this feeling that I do, otherwise you are a bunch of dumb m*****f******!" then fingers go in the ears with a loud "I DON'T HEAR YOU I DON'T HEAR YOU" … Not even an attempt at looking at the big picture or expressing a desire that perhaps there is more to it all than we know.
 
FYI, if it goes above the NJP level, the rules of evidence do apply.

I never once stood before the man. Not one NJP can be found in my SRB.

I still remember at Camp Carrol when the Top Kick while going over my SRB and asking "What kind of Marine are you" ? "You should have at least three NJP's by now." :lamo

****, I made Sergeant with in 20 months after standing on the yellow footprints.

When I was with the 5th MEB I was TAD to the Provost Marshals Office, only a ****ing chaser but I did stand in on one Summary Court Martial once. I have an idea how it works. Not like any civilian court that I've been in.
 
".....any effort to make the minority look bad or attempt to slam dunk them that is sort of manufactured as this is is gonna, of course, be greeted with resistance....."

Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
 
LOL. So much BS. It wouldn't matter to me WHO is president.

i don't believe you.

For any president that signs something into law, then ignores it, should be looked at. Any soldier that it seems hated his country and deserted his duty, should be looked at further. What else might have gone into a deal to release 5 murderers that were marked as 'high risk' of them going back to their old ways and killing Americans, should probably be looked at a bit further and deeper. You are miserably failing with your lame attempt to push politics into someplace it does not exist, and in the process really showing a blind partisanship.

i have no blind partisanship, so once again, you are wrong.

While partisanship is tearing things apart in this country, it is those that act like you are, that are the biggest problem. "just feel this feeling that I do, otherwise you are a bunch of dumb m*****f******!" then fingers go in the ears with a loud "I DON'T HEAR YOU I DON'T HEAR YOU" … Not even an attempt at looking at the big picture or expressing a desire that perhaps there is more to it all than we know.

partisanship is ruining America. when one can't even express happiness about the release of a POW without being swarmed by partisans who hate the president, there is a real problem.
 
Well, I did wonder why the wait times kept getting longer at the VA each year he has been President.....especially after all the talk he did about helping Vets and keeping tabs on the targeting of Vets.

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Doesn't surprise me, Obama couldn't get the military vote or the veterans votes in 2008 and got even less of their votes in 2012.

It's not nice to piss off Obama or those radicals who are in charge with in the Democrat Party.

It's all about votes. Do you think if Latino illegal aliens were to be awarded amnesty and they were going to vote the Republican ticket would their be a push by the left for blanket amnesty ?

Obama hasn't a clue what's happening with in the VA except from what he learns from watching Fox News. He can care less, no body is currently in charge.

You have to wonder if Obama knew that the guy he treated yesterday with the Taliban beard as a hero was a deserter ?
He probably knew.
 
i don't believe you.



i have no blind partisanship, so once again, you are wrong.



partisanship is ruining America. when one can't even express happiness about the release of a POW without being swarmed by partisans who hate the president, there is a real problem.

Your love for the president is the reason for your position.
 
I would also not totally disagree with that point as well if it can be proven that he did not desert as a Taliban apologist. If he was perhaps an apologist, then he was not really in captivity or punished for deserting. If perhaps he was not a willful deserter and his punishment of enduring 5 years of captivity is enough thats fine. However, you don't see the president appearing on camera at Levenworth congratulating prisoners on surviving their prison terms. Any idea why you don't see that? I would think there would be a pretty common sense answer to that question.

Like I keep saying - assume innocence until guilt is proven in a court of law.
 
partisanship is ruining America. when one can't even express happiness about the release of a POW without being swarmed by partisans who hate the president, there is a real problem.

So you would have what? All speech critical of the president deemed illegal?
 
Like I keep saying - assume innocence until guilt is proven in a court of law.

I am not saying he is guilty, but what I am saying is there is enough periphery evidence to demand that questions be asked and a trial be conducted. That is not a presumption of guilt.
 
Which Congressional members, the usual lying Republicans you parrot?
Prove it or you're the one once again making **** up, as you would say .

Congressman Buck McKeon.

I'm sure even your father would hold Buck in high esteem. What vet doesn't ?

I'm sure Buck holds your father in high esteem.
 
I find it very strange that a guy deserts his post, joins the taliban, claims he was kidnapped, is with them FIVE years...and not beheaded like most others...is promoted, then traded for FIVE taliban prisoners.

Like I said..something stinks. And if this guy is called a hero or a parade given him or any other bullcrap...then someONE stinks big time. Obama didn't follow procedures so I believe the stink comes from the WH.
 
Your love for the president is the reason for your position.

the "reason for my position" is that i'm happy to see a POW released after 5 ****ing years.

i'm sorry that you aren't.
 
I find it very strange that a guy deserts his post, joins the taliban, claims he was kidnapped, is with them FIVE years...and not beheaded like most others...is promoted, then traded for FIVE taliban prisoners.

Like I said..something stinks. And if this guy is called a hero or a parade given him or any other bullcrap...then someONE stinks big time. Obama didn't follow procedures so I believe the stink comes from the WH.

the white house says that the situation required immediate action because there were concerns over the health of the captive american soldier.

if we had waited 30 days, something could have gone wrong and the soldier could have died.
 
I never once stood before the man. Not one NJP can be found in my SRB.

I still remember at Camp Carrol when the Top Kick while going over my SRB and asking "What kind of Marine are you" ? "You should have at least three NJP's by now." :lamo

****, I made Sergeant with in 20 months after standing on the yellow footprints.

When I was with the 5th MEB I was TAD to the Provost Marshals Office, only a ****ing chaser but I did stand in on one Summary Court Martial once. I have an idea how it works. Not like any civilian court that I've been in.

But the rules of evidence still apply at any level above NJP. That said, even for NJP's, with the exception of supervisors and senior personnel giving testimony about what was said or done, we never brought up a case that was not solidly based upon the evidence at hand.
 
the "reason for my position" is that i'm happy to see a POW released after 5 ****ing years.

i'm sorry that you aren't.

Had he served honorably, I probably would. He committed a crime. Had the crime been murder, would you be equally excited had his crime been murder? Rape? Pissing on dead enemy troops?
 
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