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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media that you're actually pissed off about a POW being released after five ****ing years in captivity?

    seriously. i mean, i understand that it's possible to hate a president that much, but seeing it in the wild is still stunning every time. this guy is not the president. he is a POW. what is Fox saying about him?

    never mind, i just went and looked. Fox cleverly inserted the "desertion" angle, just as i expected. and turned off comments for the article. i wonder why.
    Ad hominem.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media that you're actually pissed off about a POW being released after five ****ing years in captivity?
    So if we say that his time in captivity was punishment enough, that could be true. It could also not be true if it is found that he was a Taliban appologist. If it is found that the reason he was in captivity for 5 years is because he partially agreed with their cause and as a result, never tried really hard to escape. Punishment for most citizens and soldiers who break the law is to go somewhere you don't want to be and dont have a choice weather to be there or not. Maybe his 5 years was not much a punishment. Even if it was was... Do you see the President of the United States greeting everyone and congradulating them on surviving their prison sentence? Its absurd!
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Ad hominem.
    Nice non-response.

    Seriously. A POW has been released. If you want to be pissed off about that, then whatever.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Nice non-response.

    Seriously. A POW has been released. If you want to be pissed off about that, then whatever.
    We don't even know if he was a POW yet. Based on what evidence there is, its possible he was not being held against his will.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media
    Says the guy that pushes the 'fox bad' angle. How about Rolling Stone magazine, that almost two year ago printed:

    In the early-morning hours of June 30th, according to soldiers in the unit, Bowe approached his team leader not long after he got off guard duty and asked his superior a simple question: If I were to leave the base, would it cause problems if I took my sensitive equipment?

    Yes, his team leader responded — if you took your rifle and night-vision goggles, that would cause problems.

    Bowe returned to his barracks, a roughly built bunker of plywood and sandbags. He gathered up water, a knife, his digital camera and his diary. Then he slipped off the outpost.
    Seems this information has been out there for quite a while… not a Fox invention. Care to comment on that reality?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media that you're actually pissed off about a POW being released after five ****ing years in captivity?

    seriously. i mean, i understand that it's possible to hate a president that much, but seeing it in the wild is still stunning every time. this guy is not the president. he is a POW. what is Fox saying about him?

    never mind, i just went and looked. Fox cleverly inserted the "desertion" angle, just as i expected. and turned off comments for the article. i wonder why.
    Hey, you know as well as I do that it is verboten on the Right to agree with anything at all that Obama says, does, or supports. I mean, the First Lady even just recommended that people drink more water, and the right wing went nuts.

    The Right of today is nothing like what it used to be when I was a strong conservative - they've gone off the rails.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So what he got discharged after 5 months. Point being?
    What the heck are you talking about him being discharged. How was he still in the Army and deployed if he was discharged.
    Also you still haven't said what he did that is so awesome.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What will the concequences be if Qatar cuts them lose?
    Qatar would risk its security alliance with the U.S. For the U.S., the five individuals would have practically no meaningful battlefield consequences.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So if we say that his time in captivity was punishment enough, that could be true. It could also not be true if it is found that he was a Taliban appologist. If it is found that the reason he was in captivity for 5 years is because he partially agreed with their cause and as a result, never tried really hard to escape. Punishment for most citizens and soldiers who break the law is to go somewhere you don't want to be and dont have a choice weather to be there or not. Maybe his 5 years was not much a punishment. Even if it was was... Do you see the President of the United States greeting everyone and congradulating them on surviving their prison sentence? Its absurd!
    I understand and accept that Helix's rule states that given enough time and participation, a thread about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich will turn into a flame war, but this is even more stunning.

    A POW has been released after five years in captivity, and the right is pissed off about it? Seriously?

    Five years, man.

    Five ****ing years.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Hey, you know as well as I do that it is verboten on the Right to agree with anything at all that Obama says, does, or supports. I mean, the First Lady even just recommended that people drink more water, and the right wing went nuts.

    The Right of today is nothing like what it used to be when I was a strong conservative - they've gone off the rails.
    I get so tired of this back and forth bologna from both sides. This happened during the Bush admin, the Clinton Admin, EVERY ADMIN... Its called politics. Its ugly, its stupid, and both sides are ugly and stupid. So to fight back and forth about who is worse, is a waste of time because both sides do it. Do I really have to remind you of the Bush years and all the trivial attacks that occurred during his Presidency. Or all the money spent to find out that Clinton got a BJ in the oval office. This is rife on both sides in our political system and people like you simply allow it to propagate. *RANT OFF*

    Anyway, back on topic..
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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