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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    What proof do you need? It seems rolling stone did an article on him a few years back, they talked to people in his unit that said he deserted. Rolling stone is no right wing mouthpiece.
    I would like there to be an investigation into his "abduction". If it were really an abduction, or if it turns out he was an anti-war or taliban appologist. If that is the case, why is he being rewarded for that?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    It should be noted that prisoner exchanges are not unprecedented practices. They become increasingly common toward the end of conflicts. At the same time, the Taliban members will remain under restriction in Qatar. Reuters reported, "The five are expected to live on compounds in Qatar, and their families will be brought there to live with them, officials said." Given Qatar's dependence on U.S. protection, Qatar's current government likely won't suddenly release them. Overall, the benefits of securing the release of the American soldier justify the modest risks undertaken in transferring the Taliban members to Qatar. From the Taliban's perspective, this arrangement is not so attractive that it would gain significant incentives to try to capture additional American personnel for exchange, especially as the process was so drawn out and the Taliban members did not acquire freedom.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The only American soldier held prisoner in Afghanistan has been freed by the Taliban in exchange for the release of 5 Afghan detainees from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Obama administration officials said Saturday

    Read more here: http://news.yahoo.com/us-soldier-fre...-politics.html




    I am sure that I join everyone on this forum in wishing this young man and his family and friends the best.
    Something is not right about this.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Tell your story to the family of this soldier.
    Get them on here.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i seriously can't believe that anyone is making this political.

    seriously. the guy was a POW for five years. just be happy that he's coming home.
    This is a POLITICAL FORUM.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He's not a "brave young man" or any other kind of hero. He was (apparently) the unit scumbag who got pissed off at his lieutenant and so abandoned his post and ran away from the FOB. He probably has changed a lot since, and I hope he has grown up and become a better person. But this guy doesn't deserve any medals, he deserves to be formally charged.



    By which you mean the people who actually served with him?

    Look. It's good that we got him back. It's bad that we decided to trade five dudes out of Gitmo for him, apparently on the value of their pinkie-swear that they won't go back to Jihad they pretty-promise-with-a-cherry-on-top. We should go after the American citizens who get kidnapped anywhere in the world, and get them back. But that doesn't make anyone stupid enough to wander off their base in Afghanistan by themselves because they are acting like petulant children into heroes. It just makes them American citizens whom we should go get.
    And if his actions pan out to be as they seem to have been by most reports, that he did walk away from his post, then you're right. As much as I might be glad for him and his family, I remember my oath - it meant something to me then, and still does to this day. Yeah, there's far-left liberals like me out there who believe in abiding by the oaths we took when we entered service.

    And for that reason - again, if the stories are true - I cannot pity the guy, just as I have not one ounce of pity for Pvt. Manning. If you violate your oath of service, it'd better be for a doggone good reason...and even then, you have to be prepared to accept the consequences.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As cpwill has pointed out, this cat is the unit dud. We exchanged 5 Tals for him. Not sure he we should be all that thrilled about his return. Maybe, we should be more excited about him being brought up on charges.
    Doubt that will happen, considering the administration apparently broke the law itself to gain the guy's release.

    GOP lawmakers: Prisoner exchange violated law

    From the article:
    "The White House agreed that actions were taken in spite of legal requirements and cited "unique and exigent circumstances" as justification."
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It should be noted that prisoner exchanges are not unprecedented practices. They become increasingly common toward the end of conflicts. At the same time, the Taliban members will remain under restriction in Qatar. Reuters reported, "The five are expected to live on compounds in Qatar, and their families will be brought there to live with them, officials said." Given Qatar's dependence on U.S. protection, Qatar's current government likely won't suddenly release them. Overall, the benefits of securing the release of the American soldier justify the modest risks undertaken in transferring the Taliban members to Qatar. From the Taliban's perspective, this arrangement is not so attractive that it would gain significant incentives to try to capture additional American personnel for exchange, especially as the process was so drawn out and the Taliban members did not acquire freedom.
    What will the concequences be if Qatar cuts them lose?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    This is a POLITICAL FORUM.
    and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media that you're actually pissed off about a POW being released after five ****ing years in captivity?

    seriously. i mean, i understand that it's possible to hate a president that much, but seeing it in the wild is still stunning every time. this guy is not the president. he is a POW. what is Fox saying about him?

    never mind, i just went and looked. Fox cleverly inserted the "desertion" angle, just as i expected. and turned off comments for the article. i wonder why.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That was what makes the thing feel uneasy.
    And I didnt even know about his circumstances of his getting captured or US law prohibiting release of our captives. His alleged actions should not have stopped us from rescuing him, but thats a solid rule which we should never violate. Never negotiate with terrorists.

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