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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Thoreau acted in a similar fashion and ended up in jail, suggesting that there might be more principled people in jail than the opposite.
    Criminals often sympathize with each other.

    With Vietnam, many objectors simply went to Canada, back when that country's government was not a pawn of the US government. I'm sure a few went to jail.
    As they should have.

    The guys I knew didn't want to go to jail, but they didn't want to kill people either in a fraudulent war.
    Shocking.

    I suspect Bergdahl was having the same experiences. The war is illegitimate and most folks know that, even (maybe especially) those in country in uniform.
    Seeing as that I answered your question, maybe you might feel the same about answering one for me...

    What do you find "illegitimate" about the war in Afghanistan? And if you could be specific.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Criminals often sympathize with each other.



    As they should have.



    Shocking.



    Seeing as that I answered your question, maybe you might feel the same about answering one for me...

    What do you find "illegitimate" about the war in Afghanistan? And if you could be specific.
    I thought we discussed this previously, but maybe I have you confused with another poster.

    The invasion of Afghanistan was brought under fraud.

    The predicate act to rationalize that invasion was a false flag operation. The delicious irony was that according to the official story there were no Afghanis involved in the events of 11 September, but no matter, we needed to invade the country anyway.

    But it was what it was. Life goes on.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I thought we discussed this previously, but maybe I have you confused with another poster.

    The invasion of Afghanistan was brought under fraud.

    The predicate act to rationalize that invasion was a false flag operation. The delicious irony was that according to the official story there were no Afghanis involved in the events of 11 September, but no matter, we needed to invade the country anyway.

    But it was what it was. Life goes on.

    You're correct, in that no Afghans were involved in 9/11. But there were Taliban (the Leadership of the country at the time) that were involved in providing material support to AQ in furtherance of the attack on the US. They were offered to do the right thing and hand over AQ, including OBL, whom they were harboring at the time, and they refused. They faced the consequences....Simple as that.

    Now, what are you confusing to be the "fraud"?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're correct, in that no Afghans were involved in 9/11. But there were Taliban (the Leadership of the country at the time) that were involved in providing material support to AQ in furtherance of the attack on the US. They were offered to do the right thing and hand over AQ, including OBL, whom they were harboring at the time, and they refused. They faced the consequences....Simple as that.

    Now, what are you confusing to be the "fraud"?
    Dont bother debating conspiracies.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Dont bother debating conspiracies.
    Yeah, you're probably right....I just can't understand people's thought process in that regard.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I thought we discussed this previously, but maybe I have you confused with another poster.

    The invasion of Afghanistan was brought under fraud.

    The predicate act to rationalize that invasion was a false flag operation. The delicious irony was that according to the official story there were no Afghanis involved in the events of 11 September, but no matter, we needed to invade the country anyway.

    But it was what it was. Life goes on.
    I strongly disagree with you here. The Taliban, which ran the government of Afghanistan, gave bin Laden shelter, and refused to turn him over. We were right to invade Afghanistan. Now if you want to talk about a war brought about under fraud, then mention Iraq, and I will agree with you.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're correct, in that no Afghans were involved in 9/11. But there were Taliban (the Leadership of the country at the time) that were involved in providing material support to AQ in furtherance of the attack on the US. They were offered to do the right thing and hand over AQ, including OBL, whom they were harboring at the time, and they refused. They faced the consequences....Simple as that.

    Now, what are you confusing to be the "fraud"?
    Reading your post somehow reminds me of listening to Colin Powell at the UN.

    Sorry GI, no can do.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree with you here. The Taliban, which ran the government of Afghanistan, gave bin Laden shelter, and refused to turn him over. We were right to invade Afghanistan. Now if you want to talk about a war brought about under fraud, then mention Iraq, and I will agree with you.
    I know you will disagree with me, but the simple truth is that Osama was but a figurehead, a character in a widely viewed morality play. Other than the use of his name, he had nothing to do with what actually happened on 11 SEptember.

    If you happen to agree with the provisions of International Law, by definition the US committed 'military aggression' against Afghanistan. That country did nothing to us. It did not threaten us in any way, shape or form. Just 6 months prior, the US government sent its Sec State to deliver a $43 million check to the Taliban as a sign of gratitude for their cooperation in the drug war.

    So, how does committing military aggression make us right?

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Meanwhile

    Freed Taliban Commander Tells Relative He'll Fight Americans Again - NBC News

    "After arriving in Qatar, Noorullah Noori kept insisting he would go to Afghanistan and fight American forces there,” a Taliban commander told NBC News via telephone from Afghanistan.

    Even if he's lying, hes motivating his fellow terrorists. We released 5 propaganda machines, thus aiding enemies. Under the constitution, thats treason.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Reading your post somehow reminds me of listening to Colin Powell at the UN.

    Sorry GI, no can do.
    It is what it is dude...You don't get to re write history, or manipulate things to fit your own notions of things.
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