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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But I believe we both know they won't.
    I agree that there is such a risk. IMO, that outcome, if it occurs, and not the prisoner deal would pose the largest risk of damaging U.S. interests/credibility.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    this is a good thing. i can't imagine what he went through. i'm very glad that he is being released.
    Good thing how. We put 5 ranking Taliban commanders back on the battle field. Trading for one clearly disgruntled soldier.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Wrong.

    There have been some POW's who defected while they were POW's.
    A la Patricia 'Tanya' Hearst and the Stockholm Syndrome?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Do you support him being subjected to a Court Marshal?
    If the JAG feels decides there's enough evidence to prosecute him for court-martial, then yes, absolutely. But what y'all seem to be forgetting is that there may very well be much more to the story that the JAG knows about, much more than we hear from the media...information to which the public would not - and should not - be privy. That's why it's a mistake to convict him here in the court of public opinion.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I disagree. If there is truly evidence that any of this is true, that he walked off post and soldiers were killed trying to find him, then he should be court martialed and all witnesses questioned and all evidence presented. If he is not proven guilty, then he should be released..I have the funny feeling that mental illness will be brought up, but not sure how that would affect a military trial..
    Yes...and no. As I've pointed out elsewhere, there will be information that the JAG would have, that the rest of us do not and should not have. If the JAG believes there's enough evidence to convict, then the JAG should go forward with charges...but it could be that there's more to the story that he or she knows, mitigating evidence or factors that we the general public do not and should not know about. That's why the decision must be made by the JAG, and not by public opinion of the Right or of the Left.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's an Arab country, where the culture appreciates strength vice trying to be Mr. Nice Guy. Believe it, or not, there are cultures around the globe that laugh at Liberal pacifism and see it as a sign of weakness.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    A la Patricia 'Tanya' Hearst and the Stockholm Syndrome?



    Exactly, a similar deal, I guess.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If the JAG feels decides there's enough evidence to prosecute him for court-martial, then yes, absolutely. But what y'all seem to be forgetting is that there may very well be much more to the story that the JAG knows about, much more than we hear from the media...information to which the public would not - and should not - be privy. That's why it's a mistake to convict him here in the court of public opinion.
    We agree on something! Lets stick to the facts. Its a dangerous political game accusing someone before knowing the entire situation. What we know for sure is the President negotiated with terrorists after his state dept said they dont do that, and the US has a long standing policy of trying to avoid that. We should make every effort to rescue captured soldiers, but the Taliban is not a recognized Geneva convention state, thus standard POW exchanges do not apply.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I concur, but the accusations from those with in Bergdahl's unit were made five years ago.

    The Army has had five years to look into the matter. Dereliction of duty on the Army's part ?

    Why was this guy Bergdahl (don't even want to refer to him as a soldier) promoted twice in rank when he was being classified by Obama's DOD as a POW ? This is totally unheard of in the past 236 years in America's history. Something stinks.

    Technically, isn't Bergdahl still in the U.S. military ? Why was he allowed to keep wearing his Taliban beard while being honored at the White House yesterday ? Definitely a violation of Army regulations here. Something stinks.

    Aren't Berdahl parents known lefty anti war/military activist ? Nothing smells here.
    Concerning the promotions:

    POW personnel continue to be considered for promotion along with their contemporaries. Policy provides for each missing or captured officer/enlisted member to be considered for promotion to the next higher grade when they are eligible. The eligibility for officers is based on the date of rank in their current grade. For enlisted members, eligibility is based on time in grade and time in service.

    And FYI, that guy wearing the "Taliban beard" at the White House was Bergdahl's DAD - not Bergdahl himself. But I guess that beards like that are now automatically signs of being part of the Taliban and are now verboten in America - quick - somebody go arrest the stars of Duck Dynasty and half the Harley riders in America!!!!

    For the above assumptions you made, AR, you may know install a hinge in your knee so that you can begin kicking yourself in the ass.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Exactly, a similar deal, I guess.
    When I looked it up, I found there's a similar thing called 'Lima Syndrome' where the captors develop sympathy for the prisoners/hostages.
    Maybe the human psyche sometimes tries to make an unnatural situation into something more recognizable.
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