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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Read Logan Beirne's "Blood of Tyrants, George Washington and the forging of the presidency". he has all the references you'll need.



    Yeah, the one where the current administration has hid documents and had a sec. of state that gave us that classic line about 'what does it matter' If the lives of 4 american's didn't matter to them then, why does the life of this one, that is most likely a deserter, matter enough to release 5 killers?
    I will look up that book.

    But your reference to Benghazi...*yawn*. Anyone with eyes to see knows that that's just another Whitewater witch-hunt...especially since the GOP knows that if Hillary runs, they've got no chance in heck short of assassination to stop her from winning the presidency, and probably in a landslide. You really should apply the same level of cynicism to the Right as you do to the Left.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, since when would I ever depend upon my twenty years of service in the Navy, much of which was dealing directly with legal matters, including a couple years as an assistant legal officer on board the USS Camden?
    Ah the appeal to authority fallacy. Good one.

    Your service has ZIP to do with this situation. Why don't you just admit you would take the word of the President over that of the soldiers that were there? Be consistent, stand up for what you believe in, instead of all the dodges and shifting.

    Anyone with eyes to see knows that that's just another Whitewater witch-hunt.


    Again, rather than back up your beliefs, you just keep doing your left-wing masters proud by repeating the talking points they have given you. LOL.


    You really should apply the same level of cynicism to the Right as you do to the Left.
    I do. They are as packed full of morons as your side is.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Congressman Buck McKeon.

    I'm sure even your father would hold Buck in high esteem. What vet doesn't ?

    I'm sure Buck holds your father in high esteem.
    Strange you would bring my Father up to make your point, as he died exactly two years ago in about a half hour.
    Since those on your side question everything I say, I'd be glad to send you the memo.

    McKeon also has a committee dancing on the Benghazi graves.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And your hatred for the President is the reason for your position .
    No, I would call Bergdahl a deserter, no matter who was president.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the white house says that the situation required immediate action because there were concerns over the health of the captive american soldier.

    if we had waited 30 days, something could have gone wrong and the soldier could have died.
    you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive? He put himself in that situation. What makes him so special? Sorry, but I don't like any of this. Something is not adding up.

    And what if he was NOT a captive but took those 5 years to learn what he needed to learn? Again, sorry, but my trust level is wayyyyyyy down.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I would call Bergdahl a deserter, no matter who was president.
    what does the chain in command think about all this?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I would call Bergdahl a deserter, no matter who was president.
    Yeah, it is pretty clear that Bergdahl was a deserter and several soldiers died looking for him. He doesn't deserve a heroes welcome. He needs to be brought up on charges.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive?
    Held captive? Hell, they are dying waiting to get in to be seen at the VA! Suddenly this administration cares about the health of our military members?
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    you mean like many other soldiers have died while being held captive? He put himself in that situation. What makes him so special? Sorry, but I don't like any of this. Something is not adding up.

    And what if he was NOT a captive but took those 5 years to learn what he needed to learn? Again, sorry, but my trust level is wayyyyyyy down.
    extordinary claims require extraordinary evidence in order to proove.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Like I keep saying - assume innocence until guilt is proven in a court of law.
    Those sitting on a Summary or General Court Martial should assume innocence. But the procedures leading up to the court martial don't work that way does it ?

    Unlike the how the civil system works, the accused in a military judicial system doesn't sit in a brig or stockaded with those already convicted and serving their sentences. They are still treated as soldiers, Marines or sailors until convicted.

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