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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Qatar would risk its security alliance with the U.S. For the U.S., the five individuals would have practically no meaningful battlefield consequences.
    Obama isn't going to punish Qatar for releasing these dudes; Qatar knows it.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Wrong.

    There have been some POW's who defected while they were POW's.
    Then they are no longer POW's they are defectors.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    They could investigate from now until the end of time and never learn a thing.

    It has happened many times.
    We wont know until we investigate it.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I am not sure what you are refering too... could you please elaborate.
    are you one of the ones who is pissed off about a POW being released because of partisan reasons? it's hard to keep it straight. pissed off hyperpartisans are coming at me from all sides because i'm happy that he's coming home.

    and even though i understand that hyperpartisanism is a thing, i am just flat out stunned.

    here was my initial comment :

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix
    this is a good thing. i can't imagine what he went through. i'm very glad that he is being released.
    THIS ACTUALLY LED TO A PARTISAN FISTFIGHT. ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama isn't going to punish Qatar for releasing these dudes; Qatar knows it.



    The USA needs Qatar just as much as Qatar needs the USA and Qatar knows that.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So what you are saying, is you refuse to look deeper than 'he was a POW'. That nothing else matters.

    And you refuse to address that this guy was put down as a deserter 2 years ago, but continue to blame Fox for 'making it up'?

    LOL.. a republican then a libertarian… now that's funny.
    what i'm saying is this :

    i'm happy that a POW is finally coming home after five ****ing years in captivity, and i'm disgusted that the right is making this political because they hate them some Obama.

    this dude gets released under Romney? no ****ing way fox and the right would have taken this angle. this thread would read as follows :

    Obama had four ****ing years to get this guy out, and Romney gets it done in five ****ing months.

    seriously.

    a POW has been released. this is a good thing.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And I didnt even know about his circumstances of his getting captured or US law prohibiting release of our captives. His alleged actions should not have stopped us from rescuing him, but thats a solid rule which we should never violate. Never negotiate with terrorists.
    Yes. It is inexcusable and Obama should abdicate.

    He won't, of course.....

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    You are so full of partisan BS. 'The right' didn't make this political. It has been 'put out' for a long time this guy was nothing other than a deserter, his own parents gave the media emails he wrote just before he 'disappeared' where the stated he was ashamed of America. And given the history of government in general, the motivation must always be questioned, it doesn't matter if it is Obama or Romney or the damn Easter Bunny.

    We know that our general policy is not negotiating with terrorists, so when 5 of them are let go for one guy, motivation needs to be questioned. When it is found out the guy that was missing might well be a deserter from the military… well that adds to the need to get the details and truth out.

    So to go back to my questions you responded to, it seems yes, you refuse to look deeper than 'he was a POW', and when you came out suggesting fox was making stuff up and it was shown this 'info' was out years ago, not by fox, you refuse to admit your partisan attack on them was incorrect. Thanks.

    BTW, you have no idea what he went through… was he really a POW, or was he sympathetic and worked out with is 'captors' that he would stay with them to help fight against the horrible Americans that even he detested? Could be either, but more information is needed, and journalists need to do their job and dig. But it appears you are unwilling to accept that he was anything but an upstanding American that was proud of his country fighting the 'bad guys' and was a POW that went through horrible mistreatment.
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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    I'm just glad we have videos of this guy coming home instead of videos of him getting his head sawed off.

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    Re: US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    are you one of the ones who is pissed off about a POW being released because of partisan reasons? it's hard to keep it straight. pissed off hyperpartisans are coming at me from all sides because i'm happy that he's coming home.

    and even though i understand that hyperpartisanism is a thing, i am just flat out stunned.

    here was my initial comment :
    No, and I am not aware what you are even talking about. I am simply making the point that before we lay out a warm welcome mat, we better make sure we are not condoning dissent to manifest itself within the ranks by saying its ok to go AWOL and take refuge with the enemy.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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