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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are saying the falsification of documents have been going on for many administrations?
    It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Yeah but he also called Rumsfeld on the number of troops needed in Iraq and was right.
    I concur.

    At least Gen. Shinseki wasn't a "yes man" and said what he was suppose to say.

    A good commander never surrounds himself with yes men. Be it a rifle platoon commander all the way up to the Commander in Chief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Right now the bi partisan investigations on this scandal are getting no where.

    The VA refuses to turn over documents that would lead to real accountability.

    Obstructionism is one thing the Obama administration is good at, whether its the Benghazi scandal, the IRS scandal or the Gun walking scandal.
    Do you have a link to a story about the VA refusing to turn over documents?

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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Hmmm...he resigned because it happened on his watch and he didnt know about it but apparently should have. Wait...he resigned for THAT?? In THIS administration???

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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Gaius. Yep.....he was always critical of the Bush Administration and did get into it with Rumsfeld.
    That's the only reason why Obama picked Gen. Eric Shinseki for running the VA.

    Has a physician ever been in charge of the VA before ?

    Would you appoint a traffic cop to run a hospital ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    Do you think this started with the Obama administration? I dont. I dont know when it started but I have a feeling it has been going on for a while now.
    It's existed for a long time, in fact Obama ran on updating and improving the VA in 2007 leading up to the 2008 election.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Shinseki's basically taking the fall for years of mismanagement. Crappy way to end an outstanding career.
    Well, he was in charge so he should take the fall. He and the prior VA leaders and our Federal Government do a disservice to our veterans when they allow them to die without appointments or wait (as in Arizona) 150 days to get an appointment while cooking the books for their own benefit. My question to the Obama administration would be: You ran on VA issues in 2008 yet it took a scandal of veterans dying while waiting for appointments and bi-partisan outrage to bring attention to the issue. Why didn't you follow up on your campaign promises regarding the VA and while Shinseki doesn't deserve all the blame, will you Mr. President use your bully pulpit to force the VA to come clean and provide complete and immediate information to investigators?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Unfortunately it is akin to a Captain of a ship being "fired" if his ship runs aground even though he is asleep in his bed. I asked about it starting before but I was just curious about that, I wasnt using it as an excuse. When something this big happens, extreme consequences need to happen. I also think it might warrant criminal charges for some.

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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    Do you think this started with the Obama administration? I dont. I dont know when it started but I have a feeling it has been going on for a while now.
    I'm not a doctor, but my dad was a vet. Years ago, vet doctors did surgery on him and the operation ended up being a success, but their patient died. I blamed them for performing an operation on an already weakened patient, not strong enough to survive a surgery.

    I'm a vet too, and I receive great care where I reside, so, yep, the VA in mine, and your opinions need to step up and begin or continue good care throughout their system, not just great here and crappy elsewhere.

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    Re: Embattled VA chief Shinseki resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, he was in charge so he should take the fall. He and the prior VA leaders and our Federal Government do a disservice to our veterans when they allow them to die without appointments or wait (as in Arizona) 150 days to get an appointment while cooking the books for their own benefit. My question to the Obama administration would be: You ran on VA issues in 2008 yet it took a scandal of veterans dying while waiting for appointments and bi-partisan outrage to bring attention to the issue. Why didn't you follow up on your campaign promises regarding the VA and while Shinseki doesn't deserve all the blame, will you Mr. President use your bully pulpit to force the VA to come clean and provide complete and immediate information to investigators?
    Heya Ockham. Whats the Number up to now? I think it was 42.

    Even Montell Williams jumped all over BO on this issue with the VA. He also wanted Obama to Apologize. As you stated.....it was a promise of his. Another that was broken. Even the wait times increased each year under Obama.

    He hasn't done anything except go PC with the Military, cut the Military, and tear up the command.

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