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    North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Fracking C

    North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Fracking Chemicals | Mother Jones

    On Thursday, three Republican state senators introduced a bill that would slap a felony charge on individuals who disclosed confidential information about fracking chemicals. The bill, whose sponsors include a member of Republican party leadership, establishes procedures for fire chiefs and health care providers to obtain chemical information during emergencies. But as the trade publication Energywire noted Friday, individuals who leak information outside of emergency settings could be penalized with fines and several months in prison.


    I think this really hurts the credibility of the GOP esp since they think climate change is a hoax yet blindly believe that what a corporation tells them is true. Also if you believe in whistleblower protections then this is pretty far removed from that. I don't see this ending well in the future. Perhaps some GOPers on the board can defend this action?
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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    This will never pass. Buncha fussin over nothin.
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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

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    North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Fracking Chemicals | Mother Jones

    On Thursday, three Republican state senators introduced a bill that would slap a felony charge on individuals who disclosed confidential information about fracking chemicals. The bill, whose sponsors include a member of Republican party leadership, establishes procedures for fire chiefs and health care providers to obtain chemical information during emergencies. But as the trade publication Energywire noted Friday, individuals who leak information outside of emergency settings could be penalized with fines and several months in prison.


    I think this really hurts the credibility of the GOP esp since they think climate change is a hoax yet blindly believe that what a corporation tells them is true. Also if you believe in whistleblower protections then this is pretty far removed from that. I don't see this ending well in the future. Perhaps some GOPers on the board can defend this action?
    First, this is being taken completely out of context. This is in regard to trade secret law, which did not cover this industry, yet covers most every other industry.

    Second, this will not pass in its current form, because it is too slanted and restricts public protections already granted by Federal Law in CERCLA's (Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980) and EPCRA's (Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act of 1986) Right-to-Know provisions which already protect trade secrets.

    Third, when the slanting is removed and it is brought into compliance and symmetry with CERCLA and EPCRA, this law will pass, as it should. Why? Because even as the public has a Right-to-Know, industry has a right to protections of their competitive practices to ensure they are not hurt falsely or vindictively without just cause or for political or ideological reasons alone.

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    First, this is being taken completely out of context. This is in regard to trade secret law, which did not cover this industry, yet covers most every other industry.

    Second, this will not pass in its current form, because it is too slanted and restricts public protections already granted by Federal Law in CERCLA's (Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980) and EPCRA's (Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act of 1986) Right-to-Know provisions which already protect trade secrets.

    Third, when the slanting is removed and it is brought into compliance and symmetry with CERCLA and EPCRA, this law will pass, as it should. Why? Because even as the public has a Right-to-Know, industry has a right to protections of their competitive practices to ensure they are not hurt falsely or vindictively without just cause or for political or ideological reasons alone.
    They're injecting this **** into the ground, putting my drinking water at risk. Yeah, I have a right to know what they're shoving in there.
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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They're injecting this **** into the ground, putting my drinking water at risk. Yeah, I have a right to know what they're shoving in there.
    Of course you do, if it actually affects your drinking water. If it doesn't, then no, you don't.

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Of course you do, if it actually affects your drinking water. If it doesn't, then no, you don't.
    And who determines if it affects drinking water? Duke Energy? Southern Company? Or a handful of corporations in the country?

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    If you want to enjoy trade secret protections for your fracking chemicals, you shouldn't pump them into the water table. If the community is expected to trust their health and safety to the fracking company, they need to be met halfway with transparency.

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    And who determines if it affects drinking water? Duke Energy? Southern Company? Or a handful of corporations in the country?
    Extremely good question: The government. Google CERCLA and then Google EPCRA and then read them. Many of your concerns will be answered. As for disclosing the chemicals used, Google SARA (Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act - which is the other name for CERCLA) Title III Reporting to see exactly what those companies have been required to do and have been doing since 1986. I think you'll be surprised. It goes against the anti-fracking rhetoric that they are secretly pumping poison into our water. There's no secret cover-up. The government knows exactly what they're doing, and what they are doing it with.

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Fracking Chemicals | Mother Jones

    On Thursday, three Republican state senators introduced a bill that would slap a felony charge on individuals who disclosed confidential information about fracking chemicals. The bill, whose sponsors include a member of Republican party leadership, establishes procedures for fire chiefs and health care providers to obtain chemical information during emergencies. But as the trade publication Energywire noted Friday, individuals who leak information outside of emergency settings could be penalized with fines and several months in prison.


    I think this really hurts the credibility of the GOP esp since they think climate change is a hoax yet blindly believe that what a corporation tells them is true. Also if you believe in whistleblower protections then this is pretty far removed from that. I don't see this ending well in the future. Perhaps some GOPers on the board can defend this action?
    Well, proprietary information is a corporations lifeblood sometimes. I can understand this since I have worked for four years in a department that did rapid research and development.

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    Re: North Carolina GOP Pushes Unprecedented Bill to Jail Anyone Who Discloses Frackin

    Here is the actual bill. From page 13:

    Penalties for Unlawful Disclosure.

    Except as provided in subsection (c) of this
    39 section or as otherwise provided by law, any person who has access to confidential information
    40 pursuant to this section and who discloses it knowing it to be confidential information to any
    41 person not authorized to receive it shall be guilty of a Class I felony, and if knowingly or
    42 negligently disclosed to any person not authorized, shall be subject to civil action for damages
    43 and injunction by the owner of the confidential information, including, without limitation,
    44 actions under Article 24 of Chapter 66 of the General Statutes.

    I believe that the fracking industry is run with mafia-like tactics: Con honest people out of their money and resources, corrupt the justice system, and above all, you'd better keep your mouth shut...or else.
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