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    Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    "This spring, it has been disturbing to see a number of college commencement speakers withdraw -- or have their invitations rescinded -- after protests from students and -- to me, shockingly -- from senior faculty and administrators who should know better," Bloomberg said...

    Bloomberg noted other universities have had speakers back out. He pointed to Rutgers, where former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice withdrew amid protests, and Smith College, where International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde withdrew after a student petition.
    Michael Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance - CNN.com


    While former Mayor Bloomberg was making a commencement address, I believe the points he made went beyond even Higher Education to the larger issue of a willingness to listen to diverse viewpoints (something that also seems increasingly infrequent when it comes to discussions of politics/policy and economics). Receptivity to listen to another view point should not be confused with automatic acceptance of it. One always remains free to accept or reject messages in part or in whole. However, exposure to new or different perspectives can enrich one's own understanding, whether one is in school, at work, or simply conducting one's own life. Hence, I've added this story here. If it's the incorrect forum, it can be moved.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Michael Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance - CNN.com


    While former Mayor Bloomberg was making a commencement address, I believe the points he made went beyond even Higher Education to the larger issue of a willingness to listen to diverse viewpoints (something that also seems increasingly infrequent when it comes to discussions of politics/policy and economics). Receptivity to listen to another view point should not be confused with automatic acceptance of it. One always remains free to accept or reject messages in part or in whole. However, exposure to new or different perspectives can enrich one's own understanding, whether one is in school, at work, or simply conducting one's own life. Hence, I've added this story here. If it's the incorrect forum, it can be moved.
    Universities are certainly the place where differing views should brought up and analyzed. Their goal should be education, not indoctrination. When I went to college (1960's) things were as I think they should be. I didn't experience any political indoctrination at all. Something has changed and it doesn't feel right.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    My youngest son is a rising Senior at UNC Chapel Hill. It became painfully obvious to me a few weeks ago that he had been subjected in his education at that particular university to a lack of diversity in the ideas accepted and taught. It was not that his thought process had turned from one of analysis of all perspectives to just one of a liberal/progressive viewpoint (which it had), but that he was obviously emulating his environment at the school in his discussions with me by adopting a combative and dismissive stance of any position or idea that was not of what could be referred to as pure from the liberal or progressive ideological point of view. As I've mentioned on this forum before, he raised his voice to me and became angry and agitated that anyone would dare to question his position. I stayed calm and let him know that his position was valid to the point that I would give him the respect to listen and consider it, however, he must do the same to opposing positions, do his own analysis and research, and then make up his own mind. I told him that he should never accept anything anyone says implicitly without question nor should he dismiss out of hand opposing viewpoints simply because they are different than what he has been taught.

    In other words, I saw what the OP is describing brought directly into my own house and suffered through its attempt to co-opt my own family.

    To paraphrase a far right man that I didn't agree with on every issue, yet who made a funny and salient point on the Senate floor when discussing this phenomena, Senator Jesse Helms once said in regard to the liberals and progressives in the University of North Carolina: North Carolina would be a kind and wonderful state, if you put a fence around Chapel Hill.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Michael Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance - CNN.com


    While former Mayor Bloomberg was making a commencement address, I believe the points he made went beyond even Higher Education to the larger issue of a willingness to listen to diverse viewpoints (something that also seems increasingly infrequent when it comes to discussions of politics/policy and economics). Receptivity to listen to another view point should not be confused with automatic acceptance of it. One always remains free to accept or reject messages in part or in whole. However, exposure to new or different perspectives can enrich one's own understanding, whether one is in school, at work, or simply conducting one's own life. Hence, I've added this story here. If it's the incorrect forum, it can be moved.
    I so rarely agree with him that it makes me happy when it happens. I could have done without reading his anti-gun comments, but the rest was very interesting and I agree with his point.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    I don't like Bloomberg because of his ideology, but he called this one.
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Mr Big Gulp, who wants to ban everything in NY and elsewhere, talking about intolerance
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    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Bloomberg did call it. But this is not a new problem; this intolerance of conservative professors by those who otherwise preach "tolerance" was evident by the late '80's. It's just become more uncivilly bold. I still can't believe the pie-throwing incidents, much less the more recent and embarrassing withdrawals of invitations to speak, and etc.

    Some may find interesting: Rethinking the Plight of Conservatives in Higher Education | AAUP

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    I think this raises a discussion point more so than an inherent problem. Universities - many of them, at least - are public, and these speakers are being funded in many cases by student org dollars which mostly come from the university. The speakers, therefore, are being paid public dollars to speak at a public university. Now, I don't know about anyone else here, but if I was going to college and, say, someone that was calling for the genocide of Israelis or Palestinians, or who was promoting racial violence, came to speak and was being paid to do so at my university, I wouldn't want them to. I'd protest with the goal of getting it shut down.

    So the real question is, where is the line? Should there be one, or should students be allowed to protest whomever they want with the goal of shutting down the speech?
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    When I was in college, I took all of one political science course. The prof was very conservative and went on to be a shouting radio host. Not one student in the class had the balls to disagree with him other than me.

    College students mostly want good grades because they think it matters or something.


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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I think this raises a discussion point more so than an inherent problem. Universities - many of them, at least - are public, and these speakers are being funded in many cases by student org dollars which mostly come from the university. The speakers, therefore, are being paid public dollars to speak at a public university. Now, I don't know about anyone else here, but if I was going to college and, say, someone that was calling for the genocide of Israelis or Palestinians, or who was promoting racial violence, came to speak and was being paid to do so at my university, I wouldn't want them to. I'd protest with the goal of getting it shut down.

    So the real question is, where is the line? Should there be one, or should students be allowed to protest whomever they want with the goal of shutting down the speech?
    Is censorship of ideas you oppose a good idea intellectually?

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