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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's very evident that Libbos--afraid of the Conservative message--will do anything to silence Conservative speech.
    I'll wager that all these university students will be voting Democrat. Bikinis vs Brains - Watters' World Memorial Day Quiz - O'Reilly Factor - YouTube

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's very evident that Libbos--afraid of the Conservative message--will do anything to silence Conservative speech.
    I don't see that at all. Got anything concrete or factual?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't see that at all. Got anything concrete or factual?
    Such as?
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Such as?
    Actual evidence. Not just supposition. As I noted, the college invited Rice.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    1) Inviting someone to address graduation, and in all of these cases (AFAIK) receive honorary degrees is to bestow a high honor on those speakers. It's not the time or place for provocative speakers or spirited debate - it's supposed to be a joyous occasion for the graduates and their families.

    2) Let's assume for the moment that Liberty University honored a pro-choice leader (CEO Planned Parenthood?) to address the graduates. Would anyone be the least surprised or shocked or even object if students protested granting that honor to a person who promotes widely available abortion? Of course not. I think the biggest problem people have is that they don't think the REASONS for the protests are legitimate - it's a judgment on the issues being protested and not on the tactic. Well, when a speaker holds views that disqualify them for a high honor such as commencement speaker really isn't up to anyone but the students. I just don't see the tactic - students protesting the granting of a high honor to a speaker with whom they have serious disagreements - as anything illegitimate in the least.

    3) I sort of have to laugh at Bloomberg and other elites who expect their butts to be kissed by the proles at all times objecting when the proles don't do as expected. I have a hard time working up my "give a crap" meter above 0.

    4) There have been recent instances of liberals protesting speeches on campus that aren't part of any ceremony - just invited speakers. I agree in (most of) those cases, the proper response is to hear another side, debate it if appropriate, etc. I don't think that prohibiting those we disagree with from expressing their opinions serves any useful function. The commencement speakers are different, see above. I'll also add the right wing in my state went all berserk about "Sex Week" at the university, which is a week long sex education series of speeches, presentations, etc. The legislature introduced bills aimed right shutting down that VERY popular on campus event....

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actual evidence. Not just supposition. As I noted, the college invited Rice.
    I ask again, such as?
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I ask again, such as?
    I know you think that's clever. You'd have to have the school denying difference of opinions. Evidence of hiring practices specifically designed to prevent hiring. An application question, like are you now or have you ever been a conservative. Evidence that not one professor, but that's majority of professors deny differing opinions or conservative thought in the classroom. Or that the school never, ever invites conservatives to the campus. Actual evidence of something actually being done.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Universities are certainly the place where differing views should brought up and analyzed. Their goal should be education, not indoctrination. When I went to college (1960's) things were as I think they should be. I didn't experience any political indoctrination at all. Something has changed and it doesn't feel right.
    The 60's radicals are now running the show, and what they have brought to the table proves that my grandfather was right about them all along.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know you think that's clever. You'd have to have the school denying difference of opinions. Evidence of hiring practices specifically designed to prevent hiring. An application question, like are you now or have you ever been a conservative. Evidence that not one professor, but that's majority of professors deny differing opinions or conservative thought in the classroom. Or that the school never, ever invites conservatives to the campus. Actual evidence of something actually being done.
    It is unlikely that Universities would be so bold as to put their prejudices in writing but the hiring results are clear. College Faculties A Most Liberal Lot, Study Finds (washingtonpost.com)

    We should keep in mind that among those 87% 'liberals' and/or 'progressives' (who do not celebrate 'diversity') are Communists, Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, and (with variations ad infinitum) your ordinary run-of-the -mill confused leftists. By and large they are dissatisfied with the USA, but enjoy their tenure and perks.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Bloomberg "In each case, liberals silenced a voice -- and denied an honorary degree -- to individuals they deemed politically objectionable. This is an outrage," Bloomberg said to applause.

    Honorary degrees or invitations to be a commencement speaker are honors that should only go to honorable people. Those are not opportunities for open debate. It is perfectly legitimate for the members of an institution giving an honor to protest when they are not consulted and an undeserving person is selected to be honored. The people that have been protested have mostly been bigots and warmongers.

    I have no problem with protests, I do not support shouting down a speaker so that they can not be heard when it is not an event to honor an undeserving person.

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