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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    so you are just another person who makes an accusation you can't back up. It must suck to be conservative since this seems to be a trait for you guys.
    I didn't realize that things this obvious needed "backing up" but I guess liberals can be a little thick at times so I'll explain it slowly and without a lot of big fancy words.

    The OP of this thread is dealing with a growing trend on University campuses where students, often with the guidance of faculty,(that's teachers and stuff) are displaying more intolerance to the opinions of "non-liberal" voices. In support of this point several examples of prominent conservatives being shouted down and being forced to cancel speaking engagements were cited.

    When asked for an example of a similar situation involving a prominent liberal receiving similar treatment the example of Eric Holder cancelling a speech to a group of police academy graduates was given. This example is not an apples to apples comparison for two reasons. First, it was a police academy. The OP was dealing with colleges and universities. Second and most important, it was an Oklahoma citizens group that organized the protest. It wasn't affiliated with the academy or the graduates.

    So to sum up, in a thread about trends on college campuses a rebuttal was offered that didn't involve a university, students, or faculty. The only similarity is that he did cancel the speaking engagement due to protest.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Colleges preach tolerance but practice intolerance.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    That's because one side of conservatism (the Money) dislikes academia because their quaint humanism opposes Social Darwinism and the other (the Grassroots) because they don't respect scholarship.
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    That's because one side of conservatism (the Money) dislikes academia because their quaint humanism opposes Social Darwinism and the other (the Grassroots) because they don't respect scholarship.
    Nonsense.
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't like Bloomberg because of his ideology, but he called this one.
    No so sure. Yes conservatives disregard facts they don't like, but his evidence here is weak. I've never been to Harvard, but voting habits and student protests wouldn't convince me. I'd need to see evidence of the schools unwillingness to listen. Rice was invited. It's not a bad thing to take protest head on. I once heard a story of Bush I doing it brilliantly.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    That's because one side of conservatism (the Money) dislikes academia because their quaint humanism opposes Social Darwinism and the other (the Grassroots) because they don't respect scholarship.
    Is this an attempt to soak a post with sarcasm and wit? Remember, if that is the case, tone and inflection is lost on the internet.

    If you're serious....I started laughing at the "money" part. Most of academia easily fall in the upper class category.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Not because of salaries we don't. When "upper class" includes those with extensive education as a marker, we do.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I think this raises a discussion point more so than an inherent problem. Universities - many of them, at least - are public, and these speakers are being funded in many cases by student org dollars which mostly come from the university. The speakers, therefore, are being paid public dollars to speak at a public university. Now, I don't know about anyone else here, but if I was going to college and, say, someone that was calling for the genocide of Israelis or Palestinians, or who was promoting racial violence, came to speak and was being paid to do so at my university, I wouldn't want them to. I'd protest with the goal of getting it shut down.

    So the real question is, where is the line? Should there be one, or should students be allowed to protest whomever they want with the goal of shutting down the speech?
    There should be no line, for if there is one, it always gets moved and muddled.

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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    There should be no line, for if there is one, it always gets moved and muddled.
    I disagree. I think there's always a line, even if we want to act like it's not there. There's only so much a society will tolerate. That's just how it is.
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    Re: Bloomberg: Universities becoming bastions of intolerance

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No so sure. Yes conservatives disregard facts they don't like, but his evidence here is weak. I've never been to Harvard, but voting habits and student protests wouldn't convince me. I'd need to see evidence of the schools unwillingness to listen. Rice was invited. It's not a bad thing to take protest head on. I once heard a story of Bush I doing it brilliantly.
    It's very evident that Libbos--afraid of the Conservative message--will do anything to silence Conservative speech.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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