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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't know why liberals would want get caught trashing a gay candidate's election headquarters as it would be the height of hypocrisy. Besides what would be the gain doing it?
    Considering how fanatical people can get about their side (and how much they can hate "the other side"), I wouldn't rule out the possibility of liberals/a liberal doing it. Just as it is possible someone/people who are quite firm in anti-gay beliefs could have done it (Note: Not saying a specific group).

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here we have an act of violence perpetrated against a Republican, which isn't all that unusual, but in this case it's a little different. Although when asked, the campaign said they won't speculate on a specific motive, I'm sure they have a damned good idea exactly what that motive was... It's hard to miss the 900 pound elephant in the middle of the room.

    If you somehow missed that elephant, maybe this story from 4 weeks ago will help you to see it:

    Carl DeMaio: Gay Candidate Says He Is Being Attacked By Liberal Groups Because He Is A Republican
    Dunno who did it. Crazy-ass liberals and crazy-ass anti-gays are both possibilities. It's not like this hasn't happened in reverse many times against Dems as well.

    It is just disgusting that this is the level our public discourse has fallen to. And the OP is participating in it as much as everyone else, as a well known "everything liberals do is evil" poster on this forum.

    You're not really concerned about what you should be, Grim -- that acts or words of violence are becoming a common piece of our political process, both at the professional level and the grassroots one, going every which way you can imagine. You're concerned about scoring for your side, perpetuating this animosity and break-down of the system even more. As a whole, we view each other as cartoon villains and not members of the same country. You're as guilty of that as anyone.

    We've been building to an unofficial Civil War part 2 for years, and rather than call it what it is when it happens, no matter who they are, and try to reverse it, everyone is more concerned with scoring a point for their team. If that's you, you're part of the problem.

    How are we supposed to fix a country where the majority of the populace only wants to break it more?

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I very much doubt this attack was from liberals, as I said above this could be from Republicans who don't want gays in the Republican party or it has crossed my mind this could be a false flag operation.
    Some people will say anything, do anything to protect the brand, no matter what.

    It is really refreshing to see so many leftists so sure of the motives of others they have not met and can, without pause transfer blame for something on their enemies never even having met a Republican or a gay.


    Oh, well, back when he thought he could get away with it, "dear leader not" tried to blame Obamacare's failings on Romney...but that lie was overshadowed by the other lie..."I never said that."

    If Obama can't be trusted, I am damn sure no one is listening to a troll laying blame for a break in he's never seen, against people he will never meet and who likely wouldn't be caught in the same room.

    That's just shameful.
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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I smell a CON game. These photo shopped pictures of Demiao as a drag queen- got one to show us? When were they supposed to have been distributed? Which political race did were they supposed to have been distributed?
    DeMaio, Alvarez respond to Ethics Commission's decision to fine local political consultants - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego

    SAN DIEGO - A group of local Democratic political consultants behind dozens of robocalls and a flier that aimed to keep Carl DeMaio from being elected mayor in 2012 has been fined thousands of dollars by the San Diego Ethics Commission for violating city election laws.

    10News went to an office building in Fashion Valley to speak with Jesus Cardenas, one of the Democratic consultants fined and also behind the flier, but were told by Neighborhood Market Association staff that they evicted him and his consulting company Innovation Media Group last month.

    Cardenas, Juan Boyce and Cynara Velazquez made up the group, "Conservatives For Gay Rights Supporting Carl DeMaio For Mayor 2012," according to the San Diego Ethics Commission.

    The Ethics Commission found Cardenas and Velazquez were behind robocalls and a flier that were both aimed at using former mayoral candidate DeMaio's sexuality for political gain during the 2012 race for mayor.



    See a doctor and get your nose checked.

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Dunno who did it. Crazy-ass liberals and crazy-ass anti-gays are both possibilities. It's not like this hasn't happened in reverse many times against Dems as well.

    It is just disgusting that this is the level our public discourse has fallen to. And the OP is participating in it as much as everyone else, as a well known "everything liberals do is evil" poster on this forum.

    You're not really concerned about what you should be, Grim -- that acts or words of violence are becoming a common piece of our political process, both at the professional level and the grassroots one, going every which way you can imagine. You're concerned about scoring for your side, perpetuating this animosity and break-down of the system even more. As a whole, we view each other as cartoon villains and not members of the same country. You're as guilty of that as anyone.

    We've been building to an unofficial Civil War part 2 for years, and rather than call it what it is when it happens, no matter who they are, and try to reverse it, everyone is more concerned with scoring a point for their team. If that's you, you're part of the problem.

    How are we supposed to fix a country where the majority of the populace only wants to break it more?


    Oh save it.

    Campaign offices have been targeted since Ophilius first ran for the Athens summit.


    Fact: most such break ins are usually the work of teens simply out to make mischief knowing this game will be played, blame, blame, blame.

    It is the way of US politics and the reason nother ever gets done.


    Vandalism in the US has to become an political issue.
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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I know they are. But they aren't violent. There's a very big difference in being opposed to something and being violent.

    There are people on here who are opposed to gay marriage. They don't go and rip up offices because of it.

    And there are other candidates who are gay and running for office. Why would a group based in DC go after the guy in CA? My guy here in NH is a hell of a lot closer, and they aren't attacking him, verbally or otherwise.
    It doesn't necessarily need to be the FRC, there are plenty of people on the Right who are against gay people. And like I said previously, this could be a false flag operation by the DeMaio campaign.


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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It doesn't necessarily need to be the FRC, there are plenty of people on the Right who are against gay people. And like I said previously, this could be a false flag operation by the DeMaio campaign.
    Given that Democrats have targeted him before, no Republicans have targeted him, and the FRC has no history whatsoever in aggression, we'll have to disagree on this.

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This thread isn't about me. Did you want to post on the subject, or just about my posts?
    is this another example of a conservative not wanting to have anyone question what they said. When you bring something to the conversation it becomes part of it.

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post

    SAN DIEGO - A group of local Democratic political consultants behind dozens of robocalls and a flier that aimed to keep Carl DeMaio from being elected mayor in 2012 has been fined thousands of dollars by the San Diego Ethics Commission for violating city election laws. Cardenas, Juan Boyce and Cynara Velazquez made up the group, "Conservatives For Gay Rights Supporting Carl DeMaio For Mayor 2012," according to the San Diego Ethics Commission. The Ethics Commission found Cardenas and Velazquez were behind robocalls and a flier that were both aimed at using former mayoral candidate DeMaio's sexuality for political gain during the 2012 race for mayor.

    See a doctor and get your nose checked.
    I guess that passes for 'excellence' in CONdom...

    Two parts answered, [B] the 2012 MAYORAL race [B] not this race for CONGRESS in 2014...

    Thanks for showing the class the CON game trying to link a past race with this current race when the PAC involved no longer exists and the Fundies and right wingnuts are NOT happy a gay man will go to Congress...

    Incase you are really that slow, I already knew the answer, was just HOPING some nose in the air CON would think they are 'proving' the OP when what they really did was discredit the OP....

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    Re: Vandals destroy Republican candidate’s campaign office: This was ‘no random act’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I guess that passes for 'excellence' in CONdom...

    Two parts answered, [B] the 2012 MAYORAL race [B] not this race for CONGRESS in 2014...

    Thanks for showing the class the CON game trying to link a past race with this current race when the PAC involved no longer exists and the Fundies and right wingnuts are NOT happy a gay man will go to Congress...

    Incase you are really that slow, I already knew the answer, was just HOPING some nose in the air CON would think they are 'proving' the OP when what they really did was discredit the OP....
    I hope some day you type a post without capitalizing "CON" like it's some sort of insult.

    Your post:

    I smell a CON game. These photo shopped pictures of Demiao as a drag queen- got one to show us? When were they supposed to have been distributed? Which political race did were they supposed to have been distributed?


    I gave it to you. It had nothing to do with discrediting the OP. Did you forget what you asked for?

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