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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    Your GW Bush fixation is quite a story. He has been out of office 6 years to tell me what economic results Obama has that are better than Bush's? Are we better off today than 6 years ago? Interesting question. I am not better off but then again the recession of 07-09 didn't hurt me or my family as much as the 81-82 Carter recession. Seems that economic facts aren't of any value to liberal partisan's like you.

    Obama said he would transform America so tell me is this the transformation you voted for?
    It isn't so much a "fixation" by me....as it is a denial by you. You want to act as if Obama didn't inherit an incredible mess from the previous administration, but reality doesn't operate in a vacuum as you would like it to. You cannot talk about where we are today, without comparing it to where we were when we started. By those numbers Obama has done a good job of rescuing us from the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy. Has Obama succeeded to my expectations? Not even close. I blame that partly on Republican obstructionism, but also blame Obama on his naivety and his lack of a backbone to push through some of the transformations that he promised. I also think that Obama made some bad choices continuing some of the GWB policies that he would have been better kicking to the road. I guess it comes down to this. It is better to reach for the stars and fail....than to reach for failure and succeed. We are nowhere where we need to be, but we are absolutely much better off today than we were when Obama took office. To deny this is just silly.
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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It isn't so much a "fixation" by me....as it is a denial by you. You want to act as if Obama didn't inherit an incredible mess from the previous administration, but reality doesn't operate in a vacuum as you would like it to. You cannot talk about where we are today, without comparing it to where we were when we started. By those numbers Obama has done a good job of rescuing us from the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy. Has Obama succeeded to my expectations? Not even close. I blame that partly on Republican obstructionism, but also blame Obama on his naivety and his lack of a backbone to push through some of the transformations that he promised. I also think that Obama made some bad choices continuing some of the GWB policies that he would have been better kicking to the road. I guess it comes down to this. It is better to reach for the stars and fail....than to reach for failure and succeed. We are nowhere where we need to be, but we are absolutely much better off today than we were when Obama took office. To deny this is just silly.
    Much of the mess was media driven. How did the recession of 2007 affect you and your family? What was the misery index Obama inherited? You and your ilk simply don't understand leadership or responsibilities of leadership. We are 6 years into the Obama Administration and you are still blaming Bush for the results today. Sorry but the facts are the economy is stagnant, unemployment/under employment is still as high as it was when he took office, debt is 6.7 trillion greater and yet Obama still has your support. That says a lot about you and the other Obama apologists.

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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    Much of the mess was media driven. How did the recession of 2007 affect you and your family? What was the misery index Obama inherited? You and your ilk simply don't understand leadership or responsibilities of leadership. We are 6 years into the Obama Administration and you are still blaming Bush for the results today. Sorry but the facts are the economy is stagnant, unemployment/under employment is still as high as it was when he took office, debt is 6.7 trillion greater and yet Obama still has your support. That says a lot about you and the other Obama apologists.
    LOL....spoken like a true Bush Apologist - The entire economic mess created by GWB was an illusion created by the media. Wow.......that is friggin hilarious.
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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    LOL....spoken like a true Bush Apologist - The entire economic mess created by GWB was an illusion created by the media. Wow.......that is friggin hilarious.
    Tell me exactly what mess Bush created and why "your" party didn't do something to stop it? They were in charge from January 2007 to January 2011. I don't expect honesty from anyone from the left coast and that includes you

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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    Tell me exactly what mess Bush created and why "your" party didn't do something to stop it? They were in charge from January 2007 to January 2011. I don't expect honesty from anyone from the left coast and that includes you
    LOL....So are you now admitting that it wasn't just an "illusion" created by the media?

    Reminds me of that "Dallas" espidoe whem Pam woke up and realized that the whole year was just a dream. When are you going to wake up to reality Con?
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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    Tell me exactly what mess Bush created and why "your" party didn't do something to stop it? They were in charge from January 2007 to January 2011. I don't expect honesty from anyone from the left coast and that includes you
    it takes the minority and the majority parties cooperation in order to accomplish things in both the house and senate. you cannot just pin the blame on one side.
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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    LOL....So are you now admitting that it wasn't just an "illusion" created by the media?

    Reminds me of that "Dallas" espidoe whem Pam woke up and realized that the whole year was just a dream. When are you going to wake up to reality Con?
    How is that Hope and Change working out for you and the state of California? Have the taxpayers bailed you out yet? Don't think that any liberal from California has a lot of credibility in talking about economics as well as foreign policy issues.

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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    it takes the minority and the majority parties cooperation in order to accomplish things in both the house and senate. you cannot just pin the blame on one side.
    Wrong, there are no filibuster rules in the House and as for the Senate tell me exactly what Obama wanted that he didn't get?4

    Oh, by the way, leadership is what brings parties together and not demonizing the opposition like Obama does with every speech.

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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    How is that Hope and Change working out for you and the state of California? Have the taxpayers bailed you out yet? Don't think that any liberal from California has a lot of credibility in talking about economics as well as foreign policy issues.
    LOL....talk about deflections and distractions. California is doing just fine. Oh....you must be listening to those right-wing folks that have been claiming that California is going bust for the past 25-30 years now. Nope. California is still the crown gem of the United States. Perhaps it is better for you that you remain in that illusion or dream up yours. It would be pretty bad to wake up and realize that you are in Texas, the armpit of the United States. Minimum wage and poverty capital of America.
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    Re: US to keep nearly 10k troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

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    Wrong, there are no filibuster rules in the House and as for the Senate tell me exactly what Obama wanted that he didn't get?4

    Oh, by the way, leadership is what brings parties together and not demonizing the opposition like Obama does with every speech.
    i was talking within the context of 2007-2008. obama was not president during 2007-20008.
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