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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I wonder what would happen if a Mexican citizen crossed into the US with a firearm...Would he be waved into the US by the BP?

    To be clear nothing would have happend if He had crossed into Mexico without a firearm.
    I'll make it easy for you, our state prisons and county jails are full of illegal immigrants arrested with firearms or having access to them, and the Feds don't do anything about it....

    I would've turned around and gone the wrong way down the shoulder if I had to, to avoid going into the Mexico, I wouldn't care at that point. ticket from CHP for wrong way driving and a field sobriety test are nothing compared to jail in Mexico.
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm really not interested in what the man had to say, but it does seem that insults in the Netherlands are taken very seriously rather than just being ignored.
    Well, would you like to be called a goat ****er? Or how about:

    Messengers of the most backward darkness (...) religious people for who you are the first one in line to undergo the blessings of Allah in front of a firing squad (...) religious people who think queers are impure, just like women during their periods, unbelievers and all others who do not live up to the standers of that goat ****er from Mekka.
    And yes, we do take insults very seriously, there is even the possibility to be prosecuted for insult of groups of people. But this is seldom used to prosecute and even more seldom that someone gets convicted of it. You must have really made a terribly insulting statement to even be prosecuted for it or have been also guilty of inciting violence towards that group of people.
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, would you like to be called a goat ****er? Or how about: And yes, we do take insults very seriously, there is even the possibility to be prosecuted for insult of groups of people. But this is seldom used to prosecute and even more seldom that someone gets convicted of it. You must have really made a terribly insulting statement to even be prosecuted for it or have been also guilty of inciting violence towards that group of people.
    I don't take insults seriously, at least to the level of the Muslims or the Dutch. You just insulted a dead man but you seem okay with that. 'Hate crime' legislation open the door to all sorts of abuses and we'd all better off if we just developed thicker skins.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I don't take insults seriously, at least to the level of the Muslims or the Dutch. You just insulted a dead man but you seem okay with that. 'Hate crime' legislation open the door to all sorts of abuses and we'd all better off if we just developed thicker skins.
    So what, just because he is dead does not make him a nice person suddenly. I think it is good he spoke up for his opinion, but I disliked the manner in which he spoke and insulted people on a very very regular basis.

    But although I love discussing my country, let us please get back to this poor individual in jail, I hope the state department will have good news for his family soon too.

    And if you want to discuss the Netherlands with me, start a thread, lead me to it and I will be happy to discuss all things Dutch, the great things, the weird things and also the rotten and not so nice aspects of the Netherlands. I may be proud of being Dutch and a royalist but that does not mean I do not notice things that are foul in the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    So what, just because he is dead does not make him a nice person suddenly. I think it is good he spoke up for his opinion, but I disliked the manner in which he spoke and insulted people on a very very regular basis.

    But although I love discussing my country, let us please get back to this poor individual in jail, I hope the state department will have good news for his family soon too.

    And if you want to discuss the Netherlands with me, start a thread, lead me to it and I will be happy to discuss all things Dutch, the great things, the weird things and also the rotten and not so nice aspects of the Netherlands. I may be proud of being Dutch and a royalist but that does not mean I do not notice things that are foul in the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
    Actually I have nothing against the Dutch and am not too interested in beginning a thread about them. I only like to get involved when Europeans get anti American. In fact I began arguing back against anti Americans in an Amsterdam bar during the 1994 World Cup. Before that I was quite polite with them, and stayed silent during their rants.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    A. The discussion of this issue has nothing to do with what WE in the U.S. would do in a similar scenario on our side of the border....... trying that comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

    B. He was familiar with the area, had been to Tijuana several times for "PTSD Treatment" (Who Tha **** goes to Mexico for PTSD treatment when they are in the DoD?)

    C. With that said, He has to wait this one out until the justice system there handles the case.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    where is accountability
    did the fellow violate mexican law?
    don't do the crime if you can't do the time
    Difference between crime and missed turned.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Difference between crime and missed turned.
    We can say that for alot of things.

    If we always take the suspects word for it, there would be no drunk drivers on the road. There would be no domestic violence. There would be no thieves, burglars, or robberies. There would be no murderers.

    Imagine that kind of a world.. "Well he said he didn't do it...."

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    We can say that for alot of things.

    If we always take the suspects word for it, there would be no drunk drivers on the road. There would be no domestic violence. There would be no thieves, burglars, or robberies. There would be no murderers.

    Imagine that kind of a world.. "Well he said he didn't do it...."
    But in this case, there were poorly marked and confusing signs. I think this has been legitimately established.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    But in this case, there were poorly marked and confusing signs. I think this has been legitimately established.
    Its also been established he was familiar with the area, had been there before, and thus poorly marked and confusing signs don't give excuse to his mistake.

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