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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can you prove intent?
    yes, prove he had no intention of violating mexican law

    Ever hear of due process?
    the whining was that the mexican officials made no phone call. that is all it would have taken. then prove that the incarcerated individual was denied access to communication

    i have had to arrange bribes to effect release of an American citizen from the corrupt mexican authorities. i did it with the substantial assistance of members of the state department. via phone calls. why did this fellow not seek the assistance of our state department staff ... and being in the service, why did he not seek the help of his employer to resolve what was claimed to be an accident. was it? show us why that should be accepted as true
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, tell me again why we should be cooperating with Mexico in letting their border crossing violators go free? See what happens when an American crosses the Mexican border? They throw him in Max security prison....
    I wonder what would happen if a Mexican citizen crossed into the US with a firearm...Would he be waved into the US by the BP?

    To be clear nothing would have happend if He had crossed into Mexico without a firearm.


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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's against mexican law to possess a weapon that you are not lawfully carrying
    what happened to being responsible for one's own actions
    From what I understand, all three weapons in the car were legally owned, and being transported legally. So, now that you have falsely claimed that he was unlawfully carrying weapons, you need to back up that bit of BS.

    "Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi was arrested by the Mexican military on March 31 after border inspectors found three legally purchased and registered firearms in his truck."

    Attorney for jailed Marine feels 'a little bit stonewalled' by Mexican authorities | Fox News
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    From what I understand, all three weapons in the car were legally owned, and being transported legally. So, now that you have falsely claimed that he was unlawfully carrying weapons, you need to back up that bit of BS.

    "Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi was arrested by the Mexican military on March 31 after border inspectors found three legally purchased and registered firearms in his truck."

    Attorney for jailed Marine feels 'a little bit stonewalled' by Mexican authorities | Fox News
    well, like him, all you have to do is show us the documents for each weapon proving they were legal and registered in mexico
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, tell me again why we should be cooperating with Mexico in letting their border crossing violators go free? See what happens when an American crosses the Mexican border? They throw him in Max security prison....
    "After mistakenly crossing the border with guns...."

    shows contempt for local laws.....

    If he'd done that here I'd want him in jail for a long, long time. Americans love guns, expect to be able to take them anywhere even a foreign country...

    well, no.

    You respect local laws and customs especially when it comes to things that kill people in a country already at war.....

    The lack of co-operation i see here is the other side of the Rio Grande
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I wonder what would happen if a Mexican citizen crossed into the US with a firearm...Would he be waved into the US by the BP?

    To be clear nothing would have happend if He had crossed into Mexico without a firearm.
    Are you kidding?

    "Individuals in Mexican military uniforms drew their guns on a U.S. border agent earlier this year after having crossed the southwestern border into Arizona, a U.S. senator claimed, raising concerns once again that Mexican officials are illegally crossing into the U.S. and, worse, potentially aiding the drug cartels.

    The incident described by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., would appear to be one of dozens over the past decade where Mexican military and law enforcement officers have crossed into U.S. territory. Most are presumed to be accidental, but they also raise the possibility that Mexican military members -- or individuals posing as them -- are helping drug cartels. "

    Cartel connection? Senator presses agency on 'Mexican military' incursion into US | Fox News

    Yeah, so the answer is NO, we don't toss them into prison.
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    IMO, if Mexico wants to insist about his unlawfully bringing firearms across the border, which appears to have been accidental, it should confiscate the firearms and expel the U.S. Marine.

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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, it's against Mexican law to get lost, and cross the border eh....hmmmmm....So, you advocate throwing those Mexican's that intentionally cross into America into prison?
    No, it's illegal to cross the border into Mexico with a bunch of weapons in your car.

    Are you saying people who cross the border illegally should just be released?

    I'm not familiar enough with the border, but how the heck do you accidentally enter another country? Was he off-road?
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, it's illegal to cross the border into Mexico with a bunch of weapons in your car.
    Legally owned and registered. He crossed by accident...

    Are you saying people who cross the border illegally should just be released?
    Are you kidding here? Your side of the immigration argument consistently argues for exactly that.

    I'm not familiar enough with the border, but how the heck do you accidentally enter another country? Was he off-road?
    "Once on the freeway heading toward Mexico, cars are funneled into lanes separated by concrete dividers. The only U-turn back to the U.S, before crossing into Mexico, is in the far left lane. Tahmooressi was in the far right lane – blocked from the left by divided lanes."

    Border Crossing Where Marine Entered Mexico By Mistake Difficult To Navigate | Fox News Latino
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    Re: Mexican cooperation could have spared Marine from ordeal, say border sources

    I don't know much about the case, but here is the googlemap of the area,
    https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...06899&t=h&z=17
    Supposedly he had walked into Mexico earlier for supper, and was trying to head back north,
    but got on the wrong ramp.

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