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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not as far as I know.
    Then what was the comment you made about a judge joining the liberals as opposed to the conservative ones?
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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then what was the comment you made about a judge joining the liberals as opposed to the conservative ones?
    Because Roberts didn't side with the conservative judges who held the conservative view. Same as what happened on the ruling on the mandate, where the conservatives ruled as conservatives and Roberts didn't.

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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Which is why I used it as an example of Roberts not being a consistent conservative. He is, as I said, a consistent consensus builder. He isn't a consistent conservative.
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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot[W:28]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    It's all about the judge being a democrat.
    That's the way I took it.
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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not sure why this is a partisan issue. The people impacted are the democrat challengers to Conyers seat and the democrats of Michigan.

    "Conyers turned in 2,000 signatures and more than 800 were disqualified for a variety or reasons, ranging from the signature wasn't from a registered voter or that voter didn't live in the district, the petition was misdated or contained an improper address.

    Rev. Horace Sheffield, the Detroit Democrat who is running for Conyers' seat in Congress, challenged the petitions, arguing that many past candidates have been able to abide by the rules requiring petition cirulators be registered voters and that Conyers should too.

    Another 644 signatures were thrown out by Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett because they were obtained by circulators who were either not registered voters or weren't properly registered to vote. As a result, Garrett ruled that Conyers had turned in only 592 valid signatures and she threw him off the ballot."
    All that was just a technicality, or 6.

    Conyers turned in petition signatures of which about a quarter met state requirements. Conyers is a seasoned politician who at the least should know his own states election laws. He apparently didn't. Judge thought he should not have to abide by the rules.

    Judge was wrong.

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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    All that was just a technicality, or 6.

    Conyers turned in petition signatures of which about a quarter met state requirements. Conyers is a seasoned politician who at the least should know his own states election laws. He apparently didn't. Judge thought he should not have to abide by the rules.

    Judge was wrong.
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    You'd think Conyers would know the rules after all his years of being a politician representing his district.

    If I were Horace Sheffield, I'd be pretty pissed at the judge.

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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nobody said it was. The other judges held the conservative view which is why their ruling differed from Roberts. Or are you suggesting that the other judges who voted to uphold it aren't really conservatives?
    So all conservatives think just alike on all issues? Really?
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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So all conservatives think just alike on all issues? Really?
    You said he was a consistent conservative. He isn't. You asked me to show you a single ruling to back it up. I showed you a very big and very controversial ruling.

    He isn't a consistent conservative. He's a consistent consensus builder. There are consistent conservative judges on SCOTUS - he isn't one of them.

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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not sure why this is a partisan issue. The people impacted are the democrat challengers to Conyers seat and the democrats of Michigan.

    "Conyers turned in 2,000 signatures and more than 800 were disqualified for a variety or reasons, ranging from the signature wasn't from a registered voter or that voter didn't live in the district, the petition was misdated or contained an improper address.

    Rev. Horace Sheffield, the Detroit Democrat who is running for Conyers' seat in Congress, challenged the petitions, arguing that many past candidates have been able to abide by the rules requiring petition cirulators be registered voters and that Conyers should too.

    Another 644 signatures were thrown out by Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett because they were obtained by circulators who were either not registered voters or weren't properly registered to vote. As a result, Garrett ruled that Conyers had turned in only 592 valid signatures and she threw him off the ballot."
    The reason the judge ruled this way was that there was a decent chance(paraphrasing) that when the court case goes through, the requirement for circulators to be registered voters will be deemed unconstitional under free speech. If that is the case, keeping Conyers off the ballot would be unfair as he would have been unable to run even though the law was unconstitutional. As such, the judge ruled he be added to the ballot. Many stays(which this essentially is) are done for similar reasons: there is a decent chance(note this does not necessarily mean a good chance) he will win in court, and not issuing the stay would clearly harm him. Interestingly, this is almost identical language used as with the stays in several states on rulings against state bans on SSM.

    Now there are several issues in this case I am unclear on, but I do understand the ruling. Not sure I like it (when I get home and can actually look stuff up on computer instead of pain in ass tablet will maybe get a better feel for my opinion on it.
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    Re: Judge puts U.S. Rep. Conyers back on primary ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You said he was a consistent conservative. He isn't. You asked me to show you a single ruling to back it up. I showed you a very big and very controversial ruling.

    He isn't a consistent conservative. He's a consistent consensus builder. There are consistent conservative judges on SCOTUS - he isn't one of them.
    Your whole reason as to why his ruling was not conservative was based on what you and other judges thought was the right ruling. So to you what conservatism is is based on popularity? Can you at least explain how his ruling violated what you consider conservatism to be?
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