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White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

Conservative said:
great, do you have a point? Libby was prosecuted, Armitage resigned, Plame Sued Cheney and the Bush administration and lost twice. She also lost in a Democrat Controlled House. Guess liberals just don't accept losing
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Funny....again....it wasn't liberals who brought up Plame in this thread. If you won......why can't you guys accept it as such?

LOL.
 
Conservative said:
Point, Libby went to jail and Armitage resigned. Name for me one, just one Obama official who has been prosecuted or lost their job because of what they did? Where is the accountability in this Administration and where is that promised transparency. IRS, Benghazi, VA, Afghanistan station chief, Stimulus failure and yet we have people still supporting this incompetent Administration including people like you. Says a lot about you
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I can name a few WH staff fired, I cannot find ANY evidence of the current VP office carrying out a smear campaign against a CIA agent because her husband wrote about Admin lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.

You want one Obama official, you have no concept of scale.
 
pbrauer said:
Who belongs in jail, Con?
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Let's start with the IRS scandal and coverup, the Benghazi leadership, the VA Administrator, whoever leaked the Station Chief's name and here we are a couple days later and no one has come forward, isn't that a coverup?

Doubt seriously that any liberal will accept responsibility for anything for all you people can do is place blame.
 
Conservative said:
Let's start with the IRS scandal and coverup, the Benghazi leadership, the VA Administrator, whoever leaked the Station Chief's name and here we are a couple days later and no one has come forward, isn't that a coverup?

Doubt seriously that any liberal will accept responsibility for anything for all you people can do is place blame.
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There is no IRS scandal or coverup, there is no Benghazi or coverup. More needs to be done with VA, but with all wars Bush created, should have done more.
 
Conservative said:
Doubt seriously that any liberal will accept responsibility for anything
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I can name a few WH staff fired, I cannot find ANY evidence of the current VP office carrying out a smear campaign against a CIA agent because her husband wrote about Admin lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.

You want one Obama official, you have no concept of scale.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
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I can name a few WH staff fired, I cannot find ANY evidence of the current VP office carrying out a smear campaign against a CIA agent because her husband wrote about Admin lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.

You want one Obama official, you have no concept of scale.
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Scale?

Valerie Plame behind a desk in DC not-equal-to-th.png the CIA Station Chief in Kabul

You think they're equal?
 
polgara said:
"Mistakenly identifies a CIA Chief? Yeah, right! Doesn't anybody double-check this stuff? Then they send a revised list with the name no longer appearing - Got it! A second grader could compare the two lists and see the difference. In terms of being a "surprise" visit by Obama, why would the media even need a list - it sort of ruins the surprise aspect if everyone and his brother knows about it!

Greetings, APACHERAT. :2wave:
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Hey Polgara :2wave:



:laughat: "Mistakenly" :lamo


The DP Rules required me to use a title that was nothing more than an another Obama White House lie.

The Washington Post still has to protect the first community organizer who lied his way into the White House by hiding his past and promising hope and change you can believe in.

This wasn't just another Obama White House "mistake," it's how the entire Obama administration operates every day. Complete incompetency
 
bubbabgone said:
Scale?

Valerie Plame behind a desk in DC View attachment 67167153 the CIA Station Chief in Kabul

You think they're equal?
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I will try to write this slowly......the "scale".....is the level of .....relative......scandal.


The Bush scandal.......involved the.......INTENTIONAL outing......of a CIA agent.......because her husband........wrote about.......WH lies.

The Obama "scandal"....involves......the screw up.......of the.....WH Press Office.......to which no winger.......can point to......as being a.....conspiracy.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I will try to write this slowly......the "scale".....is the level of .....relative......scandal.


The Bush scandal.......involved the.......INTENTIONAL outing......of a CIA agent.......because her husband........wrote about.......WH lies.

The Obama "scandal"....involves......the screw up.......of the.....WH Press Office.......to which no winger.......can point to......as being a.....conspiracy.
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Ohhhhh ... Well when you put it that way the Kabul screwup is even way more serious and damaging than Plame.

pssssst ... could I suggest you re-familiarize yourself with the Plame affair beyond "INTENTIONAL outing......of a CIA agent"
 
bubbabgone said:
Ohhhhh ... Well when you put it that way the Kabul screwup is even way more serious and damaging than Plame.
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As I said to the chicken who can't respond, you have no concept of scale.

pssssst ... could I suggest you re-familiarize yourself with the Plame affair beyond "INTENTIONAL outing......of a CIA agent"
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Pssst....I have been debating it with betters for years......ppppssssst....psssst....pppssssssttt.
 
pbrauer said:
There is no IRS scandal or coverup, there is no Benghazi or coverup. More needs to be done with VA, but with all wars Bush created, should have done more.
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Of course not, you live in a different world, a liberal world. Wars Bush created? Wasn't Afghanistan the "Good" war? Bush ended the Iraq war but then again here we are 6 years after Bush left office and you still will do anything you can to divert from the Obama incompetence and disaster. You are going to see what a minority you are in this fall
 
Gimmesometruth said:
As I said to the chicken who can't respond, you have no concept of scale.

Pssst....
I have been debating it with betters for years
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......ppppssssst....psssst....pppssssssttt.
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You have?
Then you should have left your biases behind and learned by now.

And yes, outing a CIA station chief in a hostile war-torn country is far more serious than casually mentioning to a Journalist that an alleged independent Administration critic is married to a DC CIA desk jockey.
 
bubbabgone said:
Scale?

Valerie Plame behind a desk in DC View attachment 67167153 the CIA Station Chief in Kabul

You think they're equal?
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lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.
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What he means is that his rant is off the scale. Look at this unsubstantiated, unproven babble completely unrelated to Valerie Plame. That incident got a special prosecutor, and this incident is far worse, so it needs one too.
 
bubbabgone said:
You have?
Then you should have left your biases behind and learned by now.

And yes, outing a CIA station chief in a hostile war-torn country is far more serious than casually mentioning to a Journalist that an alleged independent Administration critic is married to a DC CIA desk jockey.
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You just keep repeating the same chit without proof. Debate is the claim backed by proof.

So far, I have not seen the CIA send the DOJ a criminal referral over this Press Office screw up. Let me know when that happens....mkay?
 
Conservative said:
Created by the Status of Force Agreement signed in November 2008
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Which was not the "end of the war"......by any stretch.

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I can name a few WH staff fired, I cannot find ANY evidence of the current VP office carrying out a smear campaign against a CIA agent because her husband wrote about Admin lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.

You want one Obama official, you have no concept of scale.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Which was not the "end of the war"......by any stretch.

ps:

I can name a few WH staff fired, I cannot find ANY evidence of the current VP office carrying out a smear campaign against a CIA agent because her husband wrote about Admin lies leading us into a false, illegal invasion, wasting TRILLIONS in tax dollars, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents while destroying their nation, the deaths of thousands of US service personnel, and blowing up the US debt.

You want one Obama official, you have no concept of scale.
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The Status of Forces Agreement is what established the withdrawal timetable but like all liberals you will always give credit and never take responsibility. Isn't it interesting that you believe Plame sued Libby and Cheney and lost twice but still is guilty in your world? Not surprising as I expect that from low information voters.


This will be my last post to you EVER and I believe you know why
 
Conservative said:
The Status of Forces Agreement is what established the withdrawal timetable but like all liberals you will always give credit and never take responsibility.
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Forces agreements do not end a war, they set a schedule. The war ended when the last troops exited, in 2010. You are playing with semantics and not reality.


Isn't it interesting that you believe Plame sued Libby and Cheney and lost twice but still is guilty in your world? Not surprising as I expect that from low information voters.
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I don't believe Plame is guilty....at all. The evidence is overwhelming that Wilson and Plame were damaged by Cheney and his office.


This will be my last post to you EVER and I believe you know why
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I've read that one before.
 
American said:
What he means is that his rant is off the scale. Look at this unsubstantiated, unproven babble completely unrelated to Valerie Plame. That incident got a special prosecutor, and this incident is far worse, so it needs one too.
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The reason there was a special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case was that Scooter Libby lied to the FBI. He told them that he learned of her identity from Tim Russert, Russert being a journalist, Libby figured Russert would never testify, but he did.

FITZGERALD: The focus of the interview was what it that he had known about Wilson's wife, Valerie Wilson, what he knew about Ms. Wilson, what he said to people, why he said it, and how he learned it.

And to be frank, Mr. Libby gave the FBI a compelling story.

What he told the FBI is that essentially he was at the end of a long chain of phone calls. He spoke to reporter Tim Russert, and during the conversation Mr. Russert told him that, "Hey, do you know that all the reporters know that Mr. Wilson's wife works at the CIA?"

And he told the FBI that he learned that information as if it were new, and it struck him. So he took this information from Mr. Russert and later on he passed it on to other reporters, including reporter Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, reporter Judith Miller of the New York Times.

Transcript of Special Counsel Fitzgerald's Press Conference
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Gimmesometruth said:
Forces agreements do not end a war, they set a schedule. The war ended when the last troops exited, in 2010. You are playing with semantics and not reality.


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The last American combat troops left Vietnam in 1973. So how could we have lost the Vietnam War when it didn't end until 1975 ?

PM me when the last American soldier leaves Germany so I'll know when WW ll ended.
 
The problem with the Obama administration is that it is comprised of people. People are idiots. It's time we just had a bunch of robots in charge. Everybody is stupid, and the color of your tie doesn't determine whether or not you are capable of making mistakes.

For me, the only question is whether or not this was intentional. If it wasn't, then whoever failed to catch this mistake is a moron and should wear a dunce cap for a few weeks. If it was, then whoever was behind it should be behind bars. The Valerie Plame story was about the White House using their power to exact revenge against their enemies. If this was a mistake, it's hard to compare the stories. It's idiocy versus evil. Idiocy is not evil, it's just annoying.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations, establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time when Novak's column was published in July 2003.[35][36][37]
Valerie Plame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Yes, and we all know who leaked that info too and he was never prosecuted either... That's because to be in violation of the law, Armitage would have had to know her status was as a covert agent, which nobody in the Administration did, nor did half the people working at the CIA. She worked at a desk in Langley Virginia, not in some **** hole in Afghanistan where her identity being disclosed would have actually posed a danger..
 
Gimmesometruth said:
LOL....then you do understand that his mea culpa was total BS.

Cheney wanted to damage Wilson, he did so by having Scooter and Armitage destroy Plame's career.
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If that was true and they knew Plame's status was covert, then they knew something that even Bill Harlow, the CIA public information officer didn't know. Because he was Robert Novak's 3rd source for his story that confirmed Plame's identity. He told Novak she worked at a desk in Langley and had no idea her classification was covert.

Unfortunately, that story of yours is missing what so many stories from back then were... EVIDENCE
 
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