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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Plame wasn't "outted" because she wasn't a covert agent.
    After graduating from college, moving to Washington, D.C., and marrying Sesler, Plame worked at a clothing store while awaiting results of her application to the CIA.[5] She was accepted into the 1985–86 CIA officer training class and began her training for what would become a twenty-year career with the Agency.[14] Although the CIA will not publicly release the specific dates of Plame's employment from 1985 to 2002 due to security concerns,[14][16] Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald affirmed that Plame "was a CIA officer from January 1, 2002, forward" and that "her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003.[17] Due to the nature of her clandestine work for the CIA, many details about Plame's professional career are still classified, but it is documented that she worked for the CIA in a clandestine capacity relating to counter-proliferation.[14][18][19][20]
    Plame served the CIA at times as a non-official cover (or NOC), operating undercover in (at least) two positions in Athens and Brussels.[21] While using her own name, "Valerie Plame", her assignments required posing in various professional roles in order to gather intelligence more effectively.[22][23][24] Two of her covers include serving as a junior consular officer in the early 1990s in Athens and then later an energy analyst for the private company (founded in 1994) "Brewster Jennings & Associates," which the CIA later acknowledged was a front company for certain investigations.[25]
    A former senior diplomat in Athens remembered Plame in her dual role and also recalled that she served as one of the "control officers" coordinating the visit of President George H. W. Bush to Greece and Turkey in July 1991.[26] After the Persian Gulf War in 1991, the CIA sent her first to the London School of Economics and then the College of Europe, in Bruges, for Master's degrees. After earning the second degree, she stayed on in Brussels, where she began her next assignment under cover as an "energy consultant" for Brewster-Jennings.[5] Beginning in 1997, Plame's primary assignment was shifted to the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. The CIA confirmed her status as a NOC or “deep cover officer” and remarked that she was talented and highly intelligent, but decried the fact that her career featured largely US-based Headquarters service, typical of most CIA officers.[27]

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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    in hostile regions, yes.
    We tried that in Afghanistan. Recall how that worked out?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

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    After graduating from college, moving to Washington, D.C., and marrying Sesler, Plame worked at a clothing store while awaiting results of her application to the CIA.[5] She was accepted into the 1985–86 CIA officer training class and began her training for what would become a twenty-year career with the Agency.[14] Although the CIA will not publicly release the specific dates of Plame's employment from 1985 to 2002 due to security concerns,[14][16] Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald affirmed that Plame "was a CIA officer from January 1, 2002, forward" and that "her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003.[17] Due to the nature of her clandestine work for the CIA, many details about Plame's professional career are still classified, but it is documented that she worked for the CIA in a clandestine capacity relating to counter-proliferation.[14][18][19][20]
    Plame served the CIA at times as a non-official cover (or NOC), operating undercover in (at least) two positions in Athens and Brussels.[21] While using her own name, "Valerie Plame", her assignments required posing in various professional roles in order to gather intelligence more effectively.[22][23][24] Two of her covers include serving as a junior consular officer in the early 1990s in Athens and then later an energy analyst for the private company (founded in 1994) "Brewster Jennings & Associates," which the CIA later acknowledged was a front company for certain investigations.[25]
    A former senior diplomat in Athens remembered Plame in her dual role and also recalled that she served as one of the "control officers" coordinating the visit of President George H. W. Bush to Greece and Turkey in July 1991.[26] After the Persian Gulf War in 1991, the CIA sent her first to the London School of Economics and then the College of Europe, in Bruges, for Master's degrees. After earning the second degree, she stayed on in Brussels, where she began her next assignment under cover as an "energy consultant" for Brewster-Jennings.[5] Beginning in 1997, Plame's primary assignment was shifted to the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. The CIA confirmed her status as a NOC or “deep cover officer” and remarked that she was talented and highly intelligent, but decried the fact that her career featured largely US-based Headquarters service, typical of most CIA officers.[27]

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    Covert agents don't go to work everyday, at CIA headquarters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    If an administration makes a mistake, it would be nice if the next administration didn't make the same mistake and expect a pass.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We tried that in Afghanistan. Recall how that worked out?
    a lot of empires have tried to hold Afghanistan. recall how that worked out?

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The CIA said that her covert status was voided when she married an ambassador.
    citation?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who would you like to see fired?

    Guess what? It ain't going to happen.

    Who got fired over the Plame kerfuffle?
    Well, I would have to say that Obama doesn't say anything without having it written for him, I mean after all we have seen the disaster when he tries to go off prompter....So, in that case let's start with the dumbass that wrote the name into the speech that Obama gave should really be let go..
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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Covert agents don't go to work everyday, at CIA headquarters.
    When ever you make up your mind on what "uncovers" an agent, let me know....first it is "marrying", next it is "Langley".
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The CIA said that her covert status was voided when she married an ambassador.
    Legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations, establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time when Novak's column was published in July 2003.[35][36][37]
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    When ever you make up your mind on what "uncovers" an agent, let me know....first it is "marrying", next it is "Langley".
    She was working at headquarters, as an analyst, because her covert status had been revoked; not to mention the Vanity Fair article that caused Bob Novack to ask Richard Armitage, "does Joe Wilson's wife work at CIA?" Armitage said, "yes", because it was no longer a secret that she worked at CIA. SECSTATE isn't privy to the identities of covert agents, the deputy SECSTATE sure as hell doesn't have that information.

    Plame, outted Plame.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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